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abkaiser
Sep 20, 2002, 5:13 PM
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So I went to Amazon, and looked at John Long's book "Long on Adventure"... And one of the reviewers said that some of the stories in the book were fictional (and the book's small print verifies this). Does anyone have any more information on this, specifically what stories are fictional? I wanted to read these stories for entertainment as well as inspiration. Knowing that a story might be made up takes away the impact. If I wanted a good made up adventure story, I could watch Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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atg200
Sep 20, 2002, 5:36 PM
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Thats pretty lame. Long is a writer, not a historian. The book is fantastic and very entertaining. If you want pure fact, go read something by Messner or someone like that. Long is for entertainment.
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climbincajun
Sep 20, 2002, 5:39 PM
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yes, john long writes fiction. its good.
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abkaiser
Sep 20, 2002, 5:41 PM
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Okay. No offense meant to Long or his readers. I was under the impression that the stories were all non-fiction. I have a couple of his "How to Rock Climb" books, and liked his addition of little personal stories in them. I thought this was similar, only on a bigger scale. [ This Message was edited by: abkaiser on 2002-09-20 10:44 ]
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drector
Sep 20, 2002, 5:49 PM
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I Found "Eiger Dreams: Ventures Among Men and Mountains" to be very entertaining as well as inspirational. Non-fiction. Dave
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mikedano
Sep 20, 2002, 7:56 PM
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As I remember it, "Cliffhanger" with Mr. Stallone was written by John Long. And it is totally, without-a-doubt factual. Including the bolt gun.
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mugnyte
Sep 20, 2002, 9:11 PM
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I saw an old snapshot of John Long in Lynn Hill's book, but I've had a tough time finding more about him (including photos, since a buddy doesn't believe he resembles Long) online. Anybody got a link to some info about the correct man? (there seems to be quite a number of J Long's out there) Thanks mug
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madturtle
Sep 20, 2002, 9:15 PM
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Try looking up "Long J" instead...
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fitz
Sep 22, 2002, 3:49 AM
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Don't be too quick to bag on John Long for fiction or the end result of any of his screenplays. Films seldom resemble the screenwriter's original vision, and a writer/adventurer like Long may often use fiction just to protect the innocent, or convey an important life lesson more compellingly and convincingly. Long's climbing accomplishments are serious by themselves, and he has clearly played a part in inspiring others (ex. Hill credits Long with planting the seed for her free ascent of the Nose). If one is, in fact, 'Living Large', he/she may sometimes have to fictionalize just to make something seem believable. For example, I once knew a woman who, at 35, had tremendous bouts of insomnia and diarrea because she was worried that her dog might like her boyfriend more than her. If I were to describe, in detail, her sporadic public crying jags and flattulance, along with an almost psychotic fear of parental discovery of her sex toys, you would be dubious. If I tried to tell you she liked to dress like a pirate and think about scars for self stimulation; and felt compelled to share this habit with casual acquantances, you would call me a liar to my face. But, the utter waste of protoplasm in question is not only a real person, but alive and well and eligible to vote. Likewise, I'm sure some of Long's real experiences are stranger than his fiction! Just read and enjoy, safe in the knowledge that the stories are from the heart and mind of someone who has really been there. -jjf
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