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hammermaster


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I'm trying to teach myself how to climb and have been practising with some new pitons and my hammer that I bought online. I went down to a spot where I've seen other people practising. There no big walls to climb there, but there are smaller rocks that I've seen people climb on all the time. It was raining over the weekend but I went anyway cause my stuff came in the mail and I was stoked to try it out. Hammering the pitons in was usually pretty easy if I found the right spot to do it but getting them out was hard somettime. I found I could usually smash the rock around the piton and get it out, especially if the little crack didn't line up. Then I could tap the piton up and down and usually get it out. My rurp (I got different kinds of pitons) got stuck though. I was chipping off the rock around it and pushed it too far in on accident. Can anyone explain how to get it out? Thanks!


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SmileLOL - hahaha Smile


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Its not so funny. It cost me like $15!!!


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You shouldn't have to seat the RURP that deep for it to hold. However, now that you have, the best way is to take a slot screwdriver (since you're not up on a wall) and drive the RURP up and out from just under where the swaged cable runs through the eye of the steel. You may need to rock it back and forth to loosen the placement.

On a wall you would have to do this with your head chisel or a thin arrow or blade type pin.

If you are practicing close to the ground, you would be better off seeing how BAD of a piece will hold versus beating the crap out of your steel setting bomber placements. Especially with RURPs that have a more limited life span anyhow.


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hammermaster wrote:
I'm trying to teach myself how to climb and have been practising with some new pitons and my hammer that I bought online. I went down to a spot where I've seen other people practising. There no big walls to climb there, but there are smaller rocks that I've seen people climb on all the time. It was raining over the weekend but I went anyway cause my stuff came in the mail and I was stoked to try it out. Hammering the pitons in was usually pretty easy if I found the right spot to do it but getting them out was hard somettime. I found I could usually smash the rock around the piton and get it out, especially if the little crack didn't line up. Then I could tap the piton up and down and usually get it out. My rurp (I got different kinds of pitons) got stuck though. I was chipping off the rock around it and pushed it too far in on accident. Can anyone explain how to get it out? Thanks!

SAVE

Get a bigger hammer and a chisel. Why do you think they call them "Piton Scars".
Stuck Rurp....LOL....We should be so lucky.


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Thanks! I'll take a screwdriver down there tomorrow and see if I can't get under it. The eye got tipped down in a little though. Someone sent me an email about a funky device too that I'll try to make.


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The easiest way to get them out, is also very dangerous. When I'm up on a big wall, and I absolutely must get a piece out, and can't get it out any other way, I shoot it. Thats right, I get out my Glock and cap it's ass. There are 2 important things to remember however.

1. Be sure to clip into the piece you are shooting, so you don't lose it when it blows out.

2. Make sure the bullet will ricochet AWAY from you and others. A shot from the side usually works best.


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Haha. That sounds pretty sketch!


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rocknice2 wrote:
hammermaster wrote:
I'm trying to teach myself how to climb and have been practising with some new pitons and my hammer that I bought online. I went down to a spot where I've seen other people practising. There no big walls to climb there, but there are smaller rocks that I've seen people climb on all the time. It was raining over the weekend but I went anyway cause my stuff came in the mail and I was stoked to try it out. Hammering the pitons in was usually pretty easy if I found the right spot to do it but getting them out was hard somettime. I found I could usually smash the rock around the piton and get it out, especially if the little crack didn't line up. Then I could tap the piton up and down and usually get it out. My rurp (I got different kinds of pitons) got stuck though. I was chipping off the rock around it and pushed it too far in on accident. Can anyone explain how to get it out? Thanks!

SAVE

Get a bigger hammer and a chisel. Why do you think they call them "Piton Scars".
Stuck Rurp....LOL....We should be so lucky.

well done mr ice..

hopefully he's kidding and some guy's boulder project didn't just get mangled haha or he's on choss and who the fuck cares then


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*grabs beer from fridge and awaits the replies* Pirate


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How do I find out if its a bolder problem? I sorta smashed some of the rocks pretty good.


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I have to believe this is a troll or a seriously misguided newb. As a troll it is that odd mix of humor an sad like laughuing at a bike crash.

Now a a newb I would wondr why even start with pitons. As you can tell they often damage the rock and they are seldom used in the modern world. I would start with clean gear and cleaning.

Now on pulling your pins do a search on a "funkness". Any of us old timers that still practice the arcane arts of iron mongery also become fluent at funkness. Then you just hook it up and pull your pins with the hammer you put them in with.

And don't worry nobody said climbing is cheap it is a good start to bail on or destroy some gear. Welcome to gleefully tossing money down a hole.


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hammermaster wrote:
How do I find out if its a bolder problem? I sorta smashed some of the rocks pretty good.

Once you verify that it's a boulder problem, you should smash it up more. The only people who will mind are a bunch of obnoxious posers in beanies.


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hamster wrote:
How do I find out if its a bolder problem? I sorta smashed some of the rocks pretty good.

Use less pins and it's a BOLDER problem.
Use no pro and it's a BOULDER problem.
Use a taller rock and it's a BOLDER BOULDER problem.


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hammermaster wrote:
Someone sent me an email about a funky device too that I'll try to make.

I'm sorry...I couldn't resist...Sly


Seriously...find a gym...take a class...Please don't smash rocks.
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rocknice2 wrote:
hamster wrote:
How do I find out if its a bolder problem? I sorta smashed some of the rocks pretty good.

Use less pins and it's a BOLDER problem.
Use no pro and it's a BOULDER problem.
Use a taller rock and it's a BOLDER BOULDER problem.

I thnk I saw one of those in that town in Colorado...hmmm... Was it Bowler? or Boler? Just can't remember...

Rotflmao!


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time2clmb wrote:
*grabs beer from fridge and awaits the replies* Pirate

I'm with this guy Wink


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shrug7 wrote:
hammermaster wrote:
Someone sent me an email about a funky device too that I'll try to make.

I'm sorry...I couldn't resist...Sly


Seriously...find a gym...take a class...Please don't smash rocks.


HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! oh man... that's good shit right there!


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For crap's sake, keep this shit out of the beginner's forum.

Go to supertopo. They love shit like this.


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hammermaster wrote:
I'm trying to teach myself how to climb and have been practising with some new pitons and my hammer that I bought online. I went down to a spot where I've seen other people practising. There no big walls to climb there, but there are smaller rocks that I've seen people climb on all the time. It was raining over the weekend but I went anyway cause my stuff came in the mail and I was stoked to try it out. Hammering the pitons in was usually pretty easy if I found the right spot to do it but getting them out was hard somettime. I found I could usually smash the rock around the piton and get it out, especially if the little crack didn't line up. Then I could tap the piton up and down and usually get it out. My rurp (I got different kinds of pitons) got stuck though. I was chipping off the rock around it and pushed it too far in on accident. Can anyone explain how to get it out? Thanks!

Well, since you seem sincere, I'll give you some advice. Try being a bit more subtle. Truly inspired trolling requires that you set the hook with considerable care. Should you desire additional guidance, merely enter "foot belay" as a search term here.

Curt


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It is standard practice to place pitons in all sorts of climbs these days. You should first start "bouldering". This means you go into the woods and find some stoned people sitting around a boulder. Ask these people for where to find the classic "problems". Keep your pitons and hammer hidden....or they will want to use them too and then you will have to wait for the fun.

Next.....after you have "trained the hammer" as we say....you graduate on to bigger cliffs. The next level is anywhere you find bolts on the walls. These bolts are for hanging your piton bag while you are putting in those pitons. Watch out for shirtless, tattooed people in these areas. They can be very aggressive and often carry long sticks with attached carabiners they use to defend the cliffs from others who wish to "train the hammer". Do not be afraid....it's best to go by in the evening while they are drinking beer and practice your piton craft. The "routes" with a high star rating (ask the tattooed people) are particularly good for this.

Next you are ready to go to "the Valley" and by this point you will have learned all there is about pitons and you will be considered to have "gleaned the stone" after a test at the Camp of #4. It is important to up your "pinning term" This means you should find the well trodden Big wall climbs and put as many of your pitons in, as quickly as possible, in cover of darkness. Once this is done you should remove them all.....and repeat this until none of your pitons fit anymore. This is the highest level you can attain.

God Speed.

Now....back under the bridge with you.


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I can't bilev this. Yu gies are all teling this guy he'z a trol and yu just ignore the lak of saftie. Seriously, you ned a qualified instuktionist or you wil hert your self. Peetonz are so dangoris. Why do you think Tod Skiner uses bolts? becas some of us now tha t botls will keep yo able to climb hard butt konwing theat you are safe.


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Sorry, I can't believe this. My illiterate roomate signed in on my account, and well, you know what happens when roomates use your computer. First he checks out all the porn sites, then he leaves trolls on RC.com
Anyway, whoever you think you are I am going to drive my car however far it is to get to that boulder and kick your fucking ass. I am going to sink a 3/4" Hilti bolt in every one of those pin scars and make that climb safe. What are you, some kind of elitist, you think you can just make a climb dangerous and we will all risk our lives to have fun? Don't you know that climbing is about having fun and purchasing high-end designer clothing?
I filling my SUV with premium gas right now so that I can drive out there extra fast right now and teach you how to protect natural resources.


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Wow, this there is a lot of really bad trolling in this thread.


iceravines


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Use a funkness tool or leave it in place...also do not let 1 of those boulders catch you...they might just tie you into a pretzel. Im not a boulderer but the guys I see look pretty strong and probably were born weightlifters!!Shocked

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