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crackrn


Sep 7, 2007, 11:24 AM
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Just started reading RWW and am already having light bulbs go off. I've been climbing for about 3 years and am having issues with leading. I've done it a number of times, sport, single pitch and multipitch trad but have a high level of discomfort with it. I really feel like I could be climbing better (harder) if I wasn't so focused on the fear. Hence the reading of RWW.
In my opinion there is a lot of good information and just reading pell mell through the book and then heading out to the crag, seems like I'd miss a lot of subtlety. But I can also see reading the whole thing, and then going back and reinforcing certain sections after a climbing day.
What worked best for you? Did you read one or two chapters and then try to incorporate that the next time you climbed? Or did you read the whole book to get the jist and go from there?


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arnoilgner


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hello crackrn,
i think it is helpful to read the whole book through without dwelling too much on figuring it all out chapter by chapter. doing this will give you an overall understanding of how the 7 processes fit and work together. then go back and read it in more depth. also, go to the exercises section and use the "putting it all together" exercise to apply the material to a climb.
arno


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I read the whole book. Then I tried to apply each part in turn.

I do NOT recommend doing this. The whole process is important. You cannot excel in one area at the neglect of the others.

Read the book, and apply the whole process.


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Thanks, both of you for your input. I'll be back after reading and trying the process.


lhwang


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I found this book two years ago and have reread it many times since. I read it straight through and then reread it and worked on applying it.

I think the starting point for me was trying to change my mindset so that I didn't feel that climbing harder=climbing better.


arnoilgner


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all right... stop all this "trying" and begin "intending"
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Caveat: Have not read the whole book as of yet. However, had a wee bit of success this weekend. My goal was to red point a climb I've done on toprope a number of times. It's pumpy, overhung (safe falls!) and even though I'd been good on toprope, I was nervous about leading it. After a warmup, it started pouring rain. Thirty min. later, it was just sprinkling and the rock was drying off but the change in conditions had me spooked. I was even more nervous, fearing failure, falling, disappointment from my husband, etc.. Did some internal conversation, decided to look at it as a learning experience, no matter the result, pumped up my confidence and sent it!
Lots of work to be done but it was a good start.


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arnoilgner


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nice crackrn,
the book will go into all of the need for falling practice, fear of failure, ego stuff, etc.
read, apply, and report back. we're interested in someone's practical application of the material. let us know how it goes...
arno


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I bought the book years ago, and even chimed in here once or twice, but i never really read it or TRIED to apply it. Within the last year I read it and it helped pull me out of my funk. Im of the opinion that mentaly I had too many other things going on to concentrate on pulling. now, trying is out of the picture and im in action.
THANKS ARNO.
mark


arnoilgner


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mark,
thanks for the note. it can be difficult to make time to read any book. solution: get the RWW book on audio CDs. i sell it on my website as well as amazon and other retailers. we travel a lot so this is great for revisiting the material many times.
arno


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