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prusik123


Oct 1, 2007, 12:52 PM
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Another gear shop in the pittsburgh area would be great!!! There is only one real gear shop located in monroeville, and they carry more than just climbing gear. It would be nice to have some competition in the area. Although beating their customer service is going to be a tough battle. Good Luck on your future endeavors!!


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There have been a LOT of climbing shops going out of business in the pgh area over the last couple of years. This tells me that the market probably isn't big enough to support a new one. EMS just gave up recently.

REI and Exkursion are two good shops. Exkursion is going to be impossible to beat on knowledge and helpfulness. You could hope to match them though. I understand "the climbing wall" is investigating selling a few items inside of their gym. You would be a competitor with all of those stores I think.

Personally, I would love to see another shop, but it would be sad if you ended up closing shortly thereafter. The climbing market in pittsburgh just isn't very large.


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I won't beat around the bush. I shop almost exclusively at Exkursion. There have been a number of independent shops and larger retailers in the area over the years, and none get much of my business. Fred and Susan are friends, as are many of their employees. You'd be hard-pressed to find more knowledgeable, friendly folks.


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Thanks for your quick replies. I am very familiar with the past and present climbing shop situations. I feel EMS did not cut it with knowledge or product selection. I am familiar with Exkursion and agree that they have fantastic customer service. I am not looking to drive any one out of business or do anything other than try and instill more of a sense of outdoor community in the area with a friendly environment, knowledgeable staff, and passion for climbing. I would really appreciate more input.


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microbarn wrote:

REI and Exkursion are two good shops.

REI and Exkursion are not even in the same league. The people at REI have no clue. They recommend climbing gear based on whether the color matches your nice new prana jacket.

You'll definitely be able to compete with REI, but its a tough market. All of the noobs and wanna be climbers go to REI because of the pretty clothes. Exkursions gets all of the experienced people.

Good luck


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If you know about exkursions you they are good and knowledgable ppl. Their prices are competetive and customer service is tops. Mountain dreams for whatever reason couldn't make it. Maybe it was the flood. Rei and Ems don't even count as gear shops.
What side of pburgh you are in may make a difference. You would need to advertise a lot even meadville, erie, and youngstown.
I would guess that there are maybe a hundred climbers in the burgh you could double that if you go out aways. How many of them are like me and have rack, rope, shoes, harness, most everything. I get a pair of shoes every few years, thre same with rope, harness, ect. I don't buy much anymore.
You might try working through the colleges in the area because they get new ppl climbing every year. Just my opinion. Good luck.


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