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spikeddem


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So, today my copy of The Self-Coached Climber arrived in the mail, I paged through it and got excited to see looooots of full-color, glossy photos. After I finished up with paging through, I checked out the DVD. As I was pulling it out, I noticed something--it was cracked!

Now, I've got this whole book today, and I also received John Long's "Climbing Anchors" yesterday. Needless to say, I've got plenty of other things to keep me busy, but I was wondering: am I missing out much with the busted DVD?

I know there is a red point documentary on there and some other videos. I assume that the videos on the DVD only further describe what's in the book, and there is nothing completely new that the book doesn't touch on. Is that right?

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Red point documentary is filled with stuff that book doesn't touch on. (Not to mention the visual examples of training exercised is worthwhile alone.) I don't think you'll be sorry if you make an effort to get the DVD replaced.


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spikeddem wrote:
So, today my copy of The Self-Coached Climber arrived in the mail, I paged through it and got excited to see looooots of full-color, glossy photos. After I finished up with paging through, I checked out the DVD. As I was pulling it out, I noticed something--it was cracked!

Now, I've got this whole book today, and I also received John Long's "Climbing Anchors" yesterday. Needless to say, I've got plenty of other things to keep me busy, but I was wondering: am I missing out much with the busted DVD?

I know there is a red point documentary on there and some other videos. I assume that the videos on the DVD only further describe what's in the book, and there is nothing completely new that the book doesn't touch on. Is that right?

Thanks!

The DVD is essential. Get it replaced.

Jay


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The original DVD that came with my book had problems reading. I contacted the manufacturer, explained the problem and they replaced it.

They got the new DVD off to me super quick too, it was pretty cool of them.


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Perhaps it's just me... however, I found the book itself to be overly technical. I don't think I made it past the second chapter.

However, the DVD was great. The video-illustrations of gym training exercises, the redpoint attempt, etc. were all extremely accessible and interesting.

Perhaps due to the nature of the subject (movement), there's really no substitute for seeing things in motion. Definitely get the DVD replaced... it's worth the price of the package.

Dan


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djoseph wrote:
Perhaps due to the nature of the subject (movement), there's really no substitute for seeing things in motion.

Exactly.

Jay


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I have been thinking of getting this book myself. Has everyone found it to improve their climbing ability/technic/grade/skill?
Currently I'm climbing at about 5.9, which is where I mostly climbed before I got out of climbing. But just before I stopped climbing regularly, I hit a couple of 5.10's, much to my excitement.
What the consensus on the book? The few reviews in the gear section are positive.
Thanks, Don


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I have been thinking of getting this book myself. Has everyone found it to improve their climbing ability/technic/grade/skill?

Absolutely. The book revolutionized my climbing, as it will yours.

Jay


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JT is right about the book, but I got more from the DVD.

binrat


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I find it overly long and boring for what it covers. But more importantly it is the only book I know of that describes climbing movement in a way that that teaches you to use that knowledge to improve your climbing - even if you intuitively do much of what it covers.

Iíll have to give the DVD another try.


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Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.


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thomasribiere wrote:
Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.

I had the reverse problem once. (an english dvd was not viewable on a us dvd player) I don't know about the french standards, and if the problems will be exactly the same.

In any case, any computer DVD player can read the disk. However, the dvd player was programed to only switch readable formatting like 6 times total. Then you were stuck with the final format forever.

So, it seems like you would be able to view the disk, but you might not be able to view it a million times (unless they were a million consecutive viewings).


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thomasribiere wrote:
Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.

PM fluxus and see if he knows. If not, he can probably find out or direct you to someone who does.


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j_ung wrote:
thomasribiere wrote:
Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.

PM fluxus and see if he knows. If not, he can probably find out or direct you to someone who does.

I would also sugest contacting Stackpole books and see if they can shed some light on the DVD format they're publishing.

http://www.stackpolebooks.com/...polebooks.storefront


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done, thanks for the idea!


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thomasribiere wrote:
Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.

Hey Thomas,

I bought the book from Amazon.de and had no problem to watch the DVD, so you should be fine. Seems the DVD is delivered with no or a universal localization code which works in Europe as well as in the States.

Cool book, by the way. I really wanna get deeper in to it these days. Praise the gym season I'll have plenty of opportunities to waste my climbing time in training Wink

- Daniel


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You must watch the DVD. The training exercises are explained very well and the Red Point attempt video is a must see. It's inspiring for all climbers, it's encouraging to know that falling is a huge part of the process at becoming better. The Petzl Roc Trip video is pretty cool too.


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JT and Binrat, thanks for the posts. I going to go ahead and get it. I've spent more than that on new webing lately, and I'm ready to climb harder.
Don


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thomasribiere wrote:
Little question here. I've heard a lot of good / excelelnt critics about this book, and thought about ordering it.

Amazon proposes it w/ or w/o the DVD ($12 of difference). BUT... is an american DVD visible on a french computer / TV??? I remember that US videotapes were not compatible on french VCRs.

I ordered my copy from Amazon.com (US) and the DVD was region free and played fine.
The DVD is essential and compliments an excellent book.


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donald949 wrote:
I have been thinking of getting this book myself. Has everyone found it to improve their climbing ability/technic/grade/skill?
Currently I'm climbing at about 5.9, which is where I mostly climbed before I got out of climbing. But just before I stopped climbing regularly, I hit a couple of 5.10's, much to my excitement.
What the consensus on the book? The few reviews in the gear section are positive.
Thanks, Don

As a consensus, I would say the book is a positive thing. The biomechanical analysis and a truly effective training plan are proven to help sport and gym climbers do harder sport and gym routes.

For hardish trad climbing 12b+ it really isn't practical. The routes of that grade are too few and far between, making the pyramids etc impossible to achieve without a Star Trek teleporter. It's quite possible I'd see good results if I trained on sport or gym routes then occasionally climbed hard trad. Climbing routes that don't interest me simply doesn't interest me though, so I haven't and probably won't explore that option.


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Thanks for the feedback on the DVD oversea. The editor has not responded yet to my question.


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If anyone out there is finished with their book/DVD, I wouldn't mind buying them for a reasonable 2nd hand price.


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Hi,

When playing on my computer, I do not have sound....
I am using Windows Media Player on Vista.

Anyone have the same problem ?

Thanks


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for some reason the codec isn there dowload vlc media player it should work.


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Damn, climbing is already expensive enough without having to pay for stuff twice!

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