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secretninja
Jan 16, 2008, 5:46 AM
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Ive been ice climbing alot this year. This is really the firt seson ive been really serious about it (ie being out more than just the odd weekend) and it has paid off. As a result ive been able to climb (lead climb that is up to class 5 ice and M7/8. As well, ive had a lot of fun doing it. IVe recently been toying with the idea of maybe making it to some competitions at some point (if not this year then maybe next year if scheduling permits). Truth be told, i have only the fuzziest idea of how they work. Basically, I just wanted to pose this question to the general public at RC.com: What grade would I have to be climbing consistantly to be competitive at competitions? How would you best prepare for an event like this? Any feedback would be great. Thanks guys!
-C
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skiclimb
Jan 16, 2008, 6:57 AM
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Competition climbing requires one thing in order to win..Real ability.
Generally the best climber wins..
Stop worrying asbout grades at all. Just get better.. you already know what you have dificulty with.. you know what do do to improve..
do it and shut up.
Oh by the way stop worrying about being competitive,, go there to climb or don't go there.
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secretninja
Jan 16, 2008, 4:11 PM
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whoa man, take it down a notch. No need to be hostile. I'm more than aware that grades arent everything. However, they are a tool that can be used to gauge progress. And to stay that grades are irrelevant to progression is utter bullshit. No one climbed WI7 by sticking to TR'd class 3 ice.
Not really sure what you mean by this, but i enjoy competition. I find it pushes me to my limits more than a casual day at the crag (though i enjoy those too). As well, i'm not exactly sure what else i'd be entering a comp for if i wasnt planning to climb in it.
So...
Can anyone give me a little more detailed information about comps and the logistics/format involved than just the "STFU N008!" response. As heartfelt as skiclimb may have been, his post wasnt terribly useful or helpful.
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lodi5onu
Jan 16, 2008, 4:31 PM
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STFU Fag
post this kind of BS in the comp section, not alpine & ice
if you want to compete go to a comp and see what it's all about instead of getting online and spraying your grades at everybody.
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the_climber
Jan 16, 2008, 4:38 PM
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I don't think he was being hostile at all, just giving an oppinion.
Are grades irrellevant, no... but they only measure one aspect of progress, and that can be of limited use. There is a lot more to it than how hard the route is and how much you can push yourself. Ice (as you should know by now) is about the most dynamic medium you can climb. Now if you're looking at competition, well that's your choice... some like it some don't. I liked if for a while when I was younger, but found it actually took a lot of the enjoyment out of climbing. Considering your area, a couple pieces of advice with respect to mixed grades. Highly traveled mixed routes on the local stone have become MUCH easier over time, jsut look at some of the climbs in Hafner. Don't base what you can climb based on such routes. Second as an overall statement, if you can't climb it consistantly you are not climbing at that grade with respect to how it would apply to competitions. Third, training fo rcompetitions can leave you with a whole host of over-use syndroms and injuries, be carefull. Of particular note in the high rist of shoulder injuries to mixed climbers from your feet blowing out as you push yourself and catching a potential fall on your arm/tool, strengthen your shoulders for this but don't forget to ensure equal develpoment of your muscle structure. Your profile says you're in Canmore. If you are serious about competitions on ice I would suggest sending an email to Gadd. He's always more that willing to help out with advice for local climbers. Perhaps asking him if he could meet you for a coffee or a pint to talk about what competative ice/mixed climbing entails would be one way of approaching it.
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secretninja
Jan 16, 2008, 4:49 PM
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Time to hop back on those meds my friend, before that pulsing vein in your forehead bursts all over the computer screen in front of you. I'm pretty sure expensive electronic goods and bodily fluids dont get along. And the thread topic IS ice climbing, (albeit in a comp) so it would fit into alpine and ice. Anyway, the OP wasnt intended as a grade spray, but i'm sorry if you took it that way. Dont get your panties in a know, matty my boy. All i'm looking for is some info. Again:
1) what grade would an individual need to climb at to be competitive in your average ice comp/fest (ex canmore ice fest)
2)What is the format of most ice comps? how do they work? I ask this because its hard for someone who is actually employed to justify dropping a week and a flight to ouray just to watch.
thanks
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secretninja
Jan 16, 2008, 4:51 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate the helpful response
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lodi5onu
Jan 16, 2008, 4:53 PM
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yeah cuz ouray is the ONLY ice comp out there...don't you live in canada? spraytard
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paintrain
Jan 16, 2008, 5:00 PM
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Man. Seriously. What's with the hostility?
I am not sure there is enough comp ice type things in the North america to keep you overly busy. Find out the formats of the comps and go do it. Keep climbing and have fun. The only thing you will lose entering is the comps is the fee.
PT
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carabiner96
Jan 16, 2008, 6:01 PM
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lodi5onu wrote: yeah cuz ouray is the ONLY ice comp out there...don't you live in canada? spraytard
I shitz on you for breekfast.
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lodi5onu
Jan 16, 2008, 6:10 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: lodi5onu wrote: yeah cuz ouray is the ONLY ice comp out there...don't you live in canada? spraytard I shitz on you for breekfast.
thanks for backing me here 'biner69...this garbage is being spread all over here and I'm takin out the trash
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carabiner96
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lodi5onu wrote: carabiner96 wrote: lodi5onu wrote: yeah cuz ouray is the ONLY ice comp out there...don't you live in canada? spraytard I shitz on you for breekfast. thanks for backing me here 'biner69...this garbage is being spread all over here and I'm takin out the trash
No apologies, I just automatically assume that anyone who still uses the word "Fag" as an insult has an approximate IQ of...oh....-735.
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the_climber
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lodi5onu wrote: carabiner96 wrote: lodi5onu wrote: yeah cuz ouray is the ONLY ice comp out there...don't you live in canada? spraytard I shitz on you for breekfast. thanks for backing me here 'biner69...this garbage is being spread all over here and I'm takin out the trash
STFU nOOB! and don't harp on Biner just cause she shitz on you for breekfast.... she's got that ice axe arm you know... she's into that freeky shitz.
Relevent thread as the Comp-ice/mixed scene isn't really represented in the Comp forum... that's for plastic pullers, they are lame, yes.
Greater chance of relevent replies here... unless the trash speaks up.
Edit: #3000 WOOOOO!
(This post was edited by the_climber on Jan 16, 2008, 6:17 PM)
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carabiner96
Jan 16, 2008, 6:21 PM
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the_climber wrote: Edit: #3000 WOOOOO!
really? i thought you were WAY more of a post whore than that!
I'll race you to 5 g's!
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the_climber
Jan 16, 2008, 6:25 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: the_climber wrote: Edit: #3000 WOOOOO! really? i thought you were WAY more of a post whore than that! I'll race you to 5 g's!
Things changed at work... haven't been whoring as much
Climbign gets in the way of whoring too.
Race... hmmm... tempting...
OK, on three..
one...
two...
*body checks Mo to the ground*
PC++ Sucker!
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the_climber
Jan 16, 2008, 6:25 PM
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PC++
Just to rub that one in too, Mo! ha!
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the_climber
Jan 16, 2008, 6:26 PM
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No shit, it didn't even take a page for the thread drift.
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lodi5onu
Jan 16, 2008, 6:28 PM
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that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast
anyway, i would have to disagree that a question about competition doesn't belong in the comp forum
and your 3000 posts "woooo" ended up on your 3001st post
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carabiner96
Jan 16, 2008, 6:30 PM
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lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast
huh. ok, guess i could have made it a little more clear.
"biners shitz in rage on lodi's bacon!!!11!"
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knieveltech
Jan 16, 2008, 6:32 PM
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lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast anyway, i would have to disagree that a question about competition doesn't belong in the comp forum and your 3000 posts "woooo" ended up on your 3001st post
Your reading comprehension skills are fucking abysmal.
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carabiner96
Jan 16, 2008, 6:35 PM
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knieveltech wrote: lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast anyway, i would have to disagree that a question about competition doesn't belong in the comp forum and your 3000 posts "woooo" ended up on your 3001st post Your reading comprehension skills are fucking abysmal.
and we all know the comp forum is for pill-popping-head-giving gym rats.
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lodi5onu
Jan 16, 2008, 6:38 PM
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I'd like to thank you both for your participation in my hi-jacking of this lame thread. It was out of place and irrelevant to Alpine & Ice climbing, and now has little chance of ever coming to fruition for secretninja. His mindless spray disguised as genuine interest in competition climbing was exposed as just that. My work here is done.
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wanderlustmd
Jan 16, 2008, 6:38 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast huh. ok, guess i could have made it a little more clear. "biners shitz in rage on lodi's bacon!!!11!"
Girls don't shitz.
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carabiner96
Jan 16, 2008, 6:42 PM
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wanderlustmd wrote: carabiner96 wrote: lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast huh. ok, guess i could have made it a little more clear. "biners shitz in rage on lodi's bacon!!!11!" Girls don't shitz.
They do too. Dirty, nasty shitz. See the notebook thread in campground.
Poop.
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the_climber
Jan 16, 2008, 6:44 PM
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lodi5onu wrote: that wasn't sarcasm...i was really thanking biner'69 for backing me by shitting on secretninja for breakfast anyway, i would have to disagree that a question about competition doesn't belong in the comp forum and your 3000 posts "woooo" ended up on your 3001st post
Actually not, as when you posted this I likely had alread made another post in another thread, thus the indicated "total number of posts" would have represented that. Ie. if you have 100 posts, your little icon at the left of all your post will indicate 100, regardless of whether or not you are looking at your 1st 3rd 20th or 100th post.
nOOb
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