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majid_sabet
Jan 18, 2008, 12:24 AM
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Beginners, you been asking too many repeated questions so please sit and take the test.
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Your partners just setup a TR anchor, while climbing, you wonder if TR biner was receiving a load equivalent to…..
A-175 lbs
B-175 less biner friction
C-350 lbs
D-175 lbs plus biner friction
[URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] 
You setup a three point anchor using an 8 mm dynamic cord and fixed the power points with a fig 8 knot but then your partner says, he thinks during shock load , the anchor points may take the load in …… formation first.
A- 1-2-3
B- 2-3-1
C- 3-2-1
D- 3-1-2
[URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] 
The guy next to you set his beefy TR anchor using four wraps of webbing with one knot and says his anchor is rated to…. KN
A- Four webbing @ 18 KN each so 72 KN
B- Four webbing @ 18 KN each , 72 KN less 30% deduction for the knot
C- 72 KN plus 24 KN so 96 KN
D- 24 KN
[URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] 
(This post was edited by majid_sabet on Jan 18, 2008, 8:26 PM)
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epoch
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Jan 18, 2008, 12:30 AM
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee's Back!!!
I'm not going to quote the above post either...
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coastal_climber
Jan 18, 2008, 12:53 AM
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Where do they send their results Majid?
>Cam
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majid_sabet
Jan 18, 2008, 1:16 AM
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They can PM me the answers
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iwasasportweenie
Jan 18, 2008, 1:40 AM
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24+ KN on a TR anchor. That's a lot of penalty slack!
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yokese
Jan 18, 2008, 1:49 AM
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Funny you should ask, because not so long ago you didn't know the answers to those questions. And, funny enough, now that I read the options that you wrote it's obvious that you still don't know the answers.
Ah, the irony....
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gunkiemike
Jan 18, 2008, 2:54 AM
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Answer... E None of the above
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binrat
Jan 18, 2008, 1:00 PM
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MS:
The beefy anchor, is there a knot at the biner??
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chilli
Jan 18, 2008, 2:39 PM
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ha! what is WRONG with you?! this is great! methinks, the more i read these posts, the more i like this majid.
wait, wait, let me guess... if they get any of the answers wrong, you respond with a kind-hearted "YOU WILL DIE!" right?
edit (addition moments after writing inital post): in all seriousness, i'm sure you're a very knowledgeable climber (if not also capable), but c'mon... this is funny. best wishes for many safe climbs to come, majid.
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bent_gate
Jan 18, 2008, 2:46 PM
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styndall wrote: yokese wrote: Funny you should ask, because not so long ago you didn't know the answers to those questions. And, funny enough, now that I read the options that you wrote it's obvious that you still don't know the answers. Ah, the irony.... I'd climb with Majid over a member of his harassment club any day.
And I'd harass Majid over a member of his climbing club any day... 
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majid_sabet
Jan 18, 2008, 6:33 PM
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Bin
One OHB ( water knot) and no other knot in power point
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kriso9tails
Jan 18, 2008, 6:56 PM
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1) E - weighting the rope is for cowards and traitors not to mention poseurs.
2) E - I don't have a climbing partner out here, but if I did the answer would be, I don't care what she thinks; she's just there to belay, look pretty and make me sammiches... not think.
3) E - I prefer chicken wraps to beef.
Did I pass?
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time2clmb
Jan 18, 2008, 7:19 PM
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In reply to: Your partners just setup a TR anchor, while climbing, you wonder if TR biner was receiving a load equivalent to….. A-175 lbs B-175 less biner friction C-350 lbs D-175 lbs plus biner friction
If the climber is "climbing" as you stated, then the biner is not taking any load other than the weight of the rope being draped over it, assuming the belayer is not assisting by taking any of the climbers weight.
E- none of the above.
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theguy
Jan 18, 2008, 8:18 PM
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kriso9tails wrote: 3) E - I prefer chicken wraps to beef. Did I pass?
No, silly wabbit, you didn't pass: "warps", not "wraps".
Majid, bringing you diagrams from strange new worlds where no man has gone before.
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andrewbanandrew
Jan 18, 2008, 9:35 PM
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I don't understand Majid at all
and I don't mean the content of his posts
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majid_sabet
Jan 18, 2008, 10:01 PM
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Several people PMed with pretty good answers and none had a problem understanding these questions but as usual, small group of Wabbit bashing anti MS party have to drop in to turn things around to their advantages. The wabbit has bleeding wounds covered by duct tape from years of RC surfing but this Wabitt aint your typical bunny to die so easily.
Wabbit power for life.
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chilli
Jan 18, 2008, 10:18 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: ...The wabbit has bleeding wounds covered by duct tape from years of RC surfing but this Wabitt aint your typical bunny to die so easily. Wabbit power for life.
right on majid! great response to the nagging (including my own). i like your style.
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binrat
Jan 18, 2008, 10:23 PM
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MS:
The questions arwe good, there is only 1 question that some may debate about. Its the third question. Duct tape is not just for wounds you know.
Here is one person dedicated to duct tape.
http://www.redgreen.com/index.cfm?app=cart&a=menu
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sticky_fingers
Jan 18, 2008, 10:25 PM
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Majid, I not trying to knock you, but these examples are too vague. I'll try and explain why:
1. You're scenario states that "you are climbing", not hanging or "weighting" the anchor. It would be clearer (maybe) if you elaborate the drawing to show where YOU think the load would come from, ie static line fall, dynamic line fall, where during the fall you're wondering about the load, etc.
2. Are you implying an equalized anchor or not...too vague..it reads like you mean equalized, but then you don't offer a fifth choice. (edit) Just noticed there's no mention of direction of fall. Are you falling from either side of this anchor or are plumb?
3. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is the Christopher Boykin dot supposed to be? A tree, a person, what? You can still set up a beefy anchor to an empty garbage can, but when you fall, I don't care what the strength of the webbing and biner are, you're going flying.
I don't have a red pen, but please try again.
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majid_sabet
Jan 18, 2008, 10:39 PM
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sticky_fingers wrote: Majid, I not trying to knock you, but these examples are too vague. I'll try and explain why: 1. You're scenario states that "you are climbing", not hanging or "weighting" the anchor. It would be clearer (maybe) if you elaborate the drawing to show where YOU think the load would come from, ie static line fall, dynamic line fall, where during the fall you're wondering about the load, etc. 2. Are you implying an equalized anchor or not...too vague..it reads like you mean equalized, but then you don't offer a fifth choice. 3. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is the Christopher Boykin dot supposed to be? A tree, a person, what? You can still set up a beefy anchor to an empty garbage can, but when you fall, I don't care what the strength of the webbing and biner are, you're going flying. I don't have a red pen, but please try again.
You are well qualified to answer these silly questions so let other less experienced beginners get a chance to see what is going on. You see, you would not volunteer to come up with any thing like this, not in RC but if someone else does it, ohh god hope to be MS so you could bash him down with your iron jack handle.
What is the point?
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jmagnus17
Jan 18, 2008, 11:13 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: You are well qualified to answer these silly questions so let other less experienced beginners get a chance to see what is going on. You see, you would not volunteer to come up with any thing like this, not in RC but if someone else does it, ohh god hope to be MS so you could bash him down with your iron jack handle. What is the point?
Translation: You are experienced enough to know what you are doing. Please, let the people that have less experience ask intuitive questions and obtain a better understanding of safe top roping. I will now flame you because you didn't think to do a more cleverly designed quiz on RC.com with better diagrams; leaving me to come up with my version of a quiz so that your anticipation and presumption would best you in this discussion in order to bash me down with your iron jack handle.
I ask myself, why? End Translation
Does that sum it up MS?
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majid_sabet wrote: Beginners, you been asking too many repeated questions so please sit and take the test. _________________________________________________ Your partners just setup a TR anchor, while climbing, you wonder if TR biner was receiving a load equivalent to….. A-175 lbs B-175 less biner friction C-350 lbs D-175 lbs plus biner friction [URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] [IMG]http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1516646_TR.JPG[/IMG] You setup a three point anchor using an 8 mm dynamic cord and fixed the power points with a fig 8 knot but then your partner says, he thinks during shock load , the anchor points may take the load in …… formation first. A- 1-2-3 B- 2-3-1 C- 3-2-1 D- 3-1-2 [URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] [IMG]http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1516645_3point.JPG[/IMG] The guy next to you set his beefy TR anchor using four wraps of webbing with one knot and says his anchor is rated to…. KN A- Four webbing @ 18 KN each so 72 KN B- Four webbing @ 18 KN each , 72 KN less 30% deduction for the knot C- 72 KN plus 24 KN so 96 KN D- 24 KN [URL=http://www.imagehosting.com] [IMG]http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1516641_kn.JPG[/IMG] |
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