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evanwish


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I was climbing Corrugation Corner at Lover's Leap this sunday and came accross this #2 Camelot C4 right at the base of the chimney.

I'm guessing the person probably took a fall from the piton at the top of the chimney (10-15 feet up).

Any ideas how this would happen? or better yet, is anyone here the guy who lost it??




ps: we forgot the nut tool for some reason and had to leave a BD nut, a Walnut, and a red RE cam..
they should be really easy to clean so if anyone happens to get them i'd love to see them back :]


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Damn!! I hope mine doesn't break like that!

Why did you have to leave so much gear behind?


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looks like it was out in the weather for awhile, was it a fixed piece that some one hammered out. Any one know if there was a #2 BD fixed on this route at any time. It doesn't look like it broke under normal wear and tear though.


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Ditto .....ya beat me to it, ole wise one.

Rust plus the heavy scarring tells the tale.



I would suggest lubing it with wd-40, a new sling and it's good to go.Wink


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Given the gouges on the bottom of the cam it looks like someone chiseled the shit out of that cam. It also looks like someone sawed at least part way through each of the lobes. Definitely looks like a fixed piece that someone decided to clean come hell or high water.


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is there any serial # on that #2 ?

a pic from top please


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richardvg03 wrote:

Why did you have to leave so much gear behind?

yeah i want to know why too!

and thank got you got my cam back. it would be nice to see that returned :)


on_belay_hombre


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That looks remarkably similar to this #3 camelot I found at the gunks wedged in a very large flake (see attached picture). I reached in to see if it was stuck and upon grabbing the cam, realized it was keeping another very large rock in place, so I left it. My theory is, either someone fell on it and it got into that situation, or, it was already broken and someone used it to keep the large rock from falling.
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evanwish


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CaptainPolution wrote:
richardvg03 wrote:

Why did you have to leave so much gear behind?

yeah i want to know why too!

we were in a hurry and lost the nut tool... they should be really easy to clean if you have a nut tool.

BUT... we did end up cleaning other fixed nuts, an old #10 BD, and a HELLA old chilunard (sp) nut


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on_belay_hombre wrote:
That looks remarkably similar to this #3 camelot I found at the gunks wedged in a very large flake (see attached picture). I reached in to see if it was stuck and upon grabbing the cam, realized it was keeping another very large rock in place, so I left it. My theory is, either someone fell on it and it got into that situation, or, it was already broken and someone used it to keep the large rock from falling.
Was it on Minty/Tipsy Tree?


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That #2 has been there a while - I remember seeing it last time I was on Corrugation, which would have been . . . last July. It was nice and fixed - way overcammed. So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?


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The only routes I remember climbing that weekend (this was like 8 months ago) were Taquila Mockingbird and Strictly's to the Shockley's roof and one other 7ish climb, for some reason I cant remember what. I know it wasnt on the strictly's-shockleys. So it was on either of the other two...


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sactownclimber wrote:
So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?

ok so this might sound really weird, but since it was on that ledge, i just kicked it out...

it just scooted to the back and i reached it out.. only took about 3 seconds to clean it..


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evanwish wrote:
sactownclimber wrote:
So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?

ok so this might sound really weird, but since it was on that ledge, i just kicked it out...

it just scooted to the back and i reached it out.. only took about 3 seconds to clean it..
some people just never learned how to read, did they?


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So, I've never done this whole geeky posting a picture thing before, its my trial run, I'm so excited and nervous!!! You guys get to bust my dorky RC.com picture cherry!

Lets see how this goes: my buddy posted this on a different site, gold camalot, behind a block that was the majority of the belay, the block moved....


Did it work, did it work? I'll know in two shakes of a lambs tail...


irregularpanda


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Oh shit, I'm just so excited I have to post the morbid and cryptic picture too!




haha, hows that for unanswered questions?


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stymingersfink wrote:
evanwish wrote:
sactownclimber wrote:
So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?

ok so this might sound really weird, but since it was on that ledge, i just kicked it out...

it just scooted to the back and i reached it out.. only took about 3 seconds to clean it..
some people just never learned how to read, did they?

???


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evanwish wrote:
stymingersfink wrote:
evanwish wrote:
sactownclimber wrote:
So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?

ok so this might sound really weird, but since it was on that ledge, i just kicked it out...

it just scooted to the back and i reached it out.. only took about 3 seconds to clean it..
some people just never learned how to read, did they?

???
I was referring to the satownclimber. OP had already answered the questions he had.


summerprophet


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Just for kicks, anyone wanna send those cams back to BD for reslinging?


salamanizer


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That cams been there for over a year. Used to have a #3 accompanying it too. No one fell on it, that routes a magnet for endless trains of n00bs. They just overcamed it, got it stuck, didn't know how to clean it so beat the shit out of it. Then as time went by, other n00bs did their number on it as well until one day the grand pubah of dipshits decided to bring a hammer up and permanently fix it good. That cams the product of over a years worth of idiots trying to clean a piece of fixed gear. Impressive huh?

Sorry, no great epic story behind that one.


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majid_sabet wrote:
is there any serial # on that #2 ?

a pic from top please

Mahjid, mahjid; Glad you noticed - this Camalot and all other SLCDs like it have obviously been improperly designed! Someone has obviously removed the parts that make no difference whatsoever!

Cool huh!


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sactownclimber


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For the record, I read quite well. Can you point out where in the thread, prior to my posting, the op answered my question?


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sactownclimber wrote:
For the record, I read quite well. Can you point out where in the thread, prior to my posting, the op answered my question?

That would be two (2) posts prior to yours where he claims he lost his nut tool. Why he left a cam as well, I don't know, but I think it answers your question in general.


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sactownclimber wrote:
For the record, I read quite well. Can you point out where in the thread, prior to my posting, the op answered my question?

well, your posting asked:

sactownclimber wrote:
last July. It was nice and fixed - way overcammed. So . . . how is it that you managed to clean it and yet left behind gear of your own?

the answer to which can be found in the OP:

evanwish wrote:
I was climbing Corrugation Corner at Lover's Leap this sunday and came accross this #2 Camelot C4 right at the base of the chimney.

I'm guessing the person probably took a fall from the piton at the top of the chimney (10-15 feet up).

Any ideas how this would happen? [IOW, he found it in that kind of condition] or better yet, is anyone here the guy who lost it??


ps: we forgot the nut tool for some reason and had to leave a BD nut, a Walnut, and a red RE cam..
they should be really easy to clean so if anyone happens to get them i'd love to see them back :]


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What's going on here are differing assumptions, not a reading disability. I read his thread, and based on my experience of being on that ledge and seeing the piece fixed, assumed that he figured out a way to unfix it. This seemed incongruous with his later statement about not having the ability to clean other fixed pieces because he didn't have his nut tool . . . ergo, my question. I suppose it's possible that he found it in that condition, but that wasn't explicitly stated in his post, which is why I asked a clarifying question.

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