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richardvg03
May 5, 2008, 6:19 AM
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I met up with Einstein and abbadab at Jtree and we did some climbing. abbadab did one route and was done for the day but Einstein was a pretty seasoned climber and we got some routes under our belts. I really enjoyed the trip. It gave me a chance to get comfortable with my trad gear and really learn to trust it.
Jtree is way different than any other place I've ever been! I'm use to bolts at the top of every climb. Not so use to rapping off webbing and rap rings. It was a great trip! I'm sore and I'm missing the skin off of a couple of my nuckles! Pictures to come!
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abbadab
May 5, 2008, 11:48 PM
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lol...did you mention that i also climbed the day before ANNND had to leave early saturday??
i will admit, i got tired soo much faster than i expected. i'm a pretty active gal, and work out alot, but those JTREE rocks wore me out! 
but when it was all said and done, even with fewer climbs than i had expected, i still had fun.
it was interesting to note the differenct techniques you guys used
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quiteatingmysteak
May 6, 2008, 12:04 AM
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JTREE = POPCORN
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quiteatingmysteak
May 6, 2008, 4:11 AM
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abbadab wrote: quiteatingmysteak wrote: JTREE = POPCORN "popcorn" as in easy? or "popcorn" as in tiny shards of hand-maiming rock? lol 
Its huge popcorn. I recommend Ortega falls.
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abbadab
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quiteatingmysteak wrote: abbadab wrote: quiteatingmysteak wrote: JTREE = POPCORN "popcorn" as in easy? or "popcorn" as in tiny shards of hand-maiming rock? lol Its huge popcorn. I recommend Ortega falls.
i always love a recommendation! i will have to look up where that is exactly..
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southswell
May 6, 2008, 6:02 AM
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abbadab wrote: quiteatingmysteak wrote: abbadab wrote: quiteatingmysteak wrote: JTREE = POPCORN "popcorn" as in easy? or "popcorn" as in tiny shards of hand-maiming rock? lol Its huge popcorn. I recommend Ortega falls. i always love a recommendation! i will have to look up where that is exactly..
Its south of Lake Elsinore in SoCal
Its actually a fairly neat setting: lots of granite pools (when the water flows), nooks and cranies to explore. There are drawbacks though. It is a very short approach from Ortega HWY and is frequented by Bud Light Ice Dry Draft drinking spray paint can wielding folks with their elbows up, side to side. Looking past that though, the falls offer a very small spread of quality moderate climbs.
Attached is a pic I took 3/12/08. Not sure if there is still any water.
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quiteatingmysteak
May 6, 2008, 6:23 AM
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http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=512368
edit
i was being sarcastic when I mentioned OF, but after seeing that pic, I guess it does have some merit, lol.
Seriously though, JT = Too hot. Time for Idyllwild.
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chanceboarder
May 6, 2008, 4:07 PM
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2 daisy chains? 
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 4:33 PM
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Um... ya? for hanging belays...
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jt512
May 6, 2008, 4:48 PM
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richardvg03 wrote: Um... ya? for hanging belays...
Are there a lot of those at J Tree?
Jay
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 5:17 PM
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Nope... but I don't take my daisy's off of my harness...
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jt512
May 6, 2008, 5:22 PM
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richardvg03 wrote: Nope... but I don't take my daisy's off of my harness...
You should take at least one of them off, and search the forums for why it is important to tie in to the anchor with the rope.
Jay
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 5:24 PM
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I do that also... figure 8 on a bite ;)
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chanceboarder
May 6, 2008, 5:43 PM
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quiteatingmysteak wrote: chanceboarder wrote: 2 daisy chains? C'mon, everyone uses two daisys. On el cap... 
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chanceboarder
May 6, 2008, 5:45 PM
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richardvg03 wrote: I do that also... figure 8 on a bite ;)
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 5:49 PM
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I find it funny that the first time I did a multi-pitch route last year I took a pic of me in a hanging belay and I had a single daisy... then I got bashed for only having one daisy... and now I have two hahaha Over kill is always better :)
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quiteatingmysteak
May 6, 2008, 5:53 PM
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richardvg03 wrote: I find it funny that the first time I did a multi-pitch route last year I took a pic of me in a hanging belay and I had a single daisy... then I got bashed for only having one daisy... and now I have two hahaha Over kill is always better :)
Overkill can sometimes be a hindrance, simple is better on longer routes. For instance, it is faster to sling a tree as an anchor than to look for a few marginal nuts. The rope can hold like 3 tons, a quick hitch is more than adequate. Just my 2 cents, you climb however is fun for you :D
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chanceboarder
May 6, 2008, 5:55 PM
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Because in general, most people who do use a daisy chain to clip into an anchor carry and use only one and if they want to have a back up use the rope as either the back up or primary connection to the anchor, not a second daisy chain.
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 6:05 PM
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Well I use two... I also use 4 cams when building anchors... is that bad? :)
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donald949
May 6, 2008, 6:10 PM
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chanceboarder wrote: Because in general, most people who do use a daisy chain to clip into an anchor carry and use only one and if they want to have a back up use the rope as either the back up or primary connection to the anchor, not a second daisy chain.
http://www.gearexpress.biz/...mp;Product_Code=6980
A cheaper alternative to the daisy/PAS would be a 48" runner.
Climb Safe
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donald949
May 6, 2008, 6:13 PM
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richardvg03 wrote: Well I use two... I also use 4 cams when building anchors... is that bad? :)
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richardvg03
May 6, 2008, 6:39 PM
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I only use my daisy's as body weight only anyways... they're girth hitched to my harness...
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