So I'm planning on doing my first walls this fall and I'm wondering which system for jugging people like and why. I've used two jumars before, and I've used a jumar and a gri-gri. I think I lean towards using 2 ascenders, but I like the ability to go up and down with a gri-gri, and I like the extra security (mostly mental) of a gri-gri. However the Frog system wears me out.
I prefer to use one acsender with pulley and gri-gri, however I have found that when cleaning a roof 2 acsenders work best for me. So when I come to a roof I clip my second acsender on and break down my pulley, then clean once I am over that hurdle i recconect my pulley and up I go . This system has allowed me to ascend 150 foot of line in about 20 minutes at a relaxed pace, Whereas using two jumars can really spank me. Anthony
2 jugs 2 adjustable daisies is by far the most adaptable setup for walls..as angle changes or traversese are needed or you find yourself in od convuluted terrain.. you can quickly adjust this to fit the situation... once good at it you can fly along.
The one place the frog system works better is direct overhanging terrain. However withthe 2 jug 2 adjustable daisies you can quicky convert to a near frog system almost instantly.
You've got your poll labeled wrong. The 'one handled jug and a grigri' option isn't the frog system. That is the one I like the best, though. Being connected to jugs by daisies with nothing else makes me really nervous, and the grigri is a nice security blanket.
So, I don't understand the set up of a pulley then, If you have the pulley clipped to the bottom of the jug, and the rope running from the gri-gri to the pulley and down, then all the pulley is doing is redirecting the rope. Unless I'm missing something.
And no, I don't haul hand over hand, I hire porters for that.
Are you pulling my leg? The rope goes from its fixed point at the top anchor, through your ascender, through your gri-gri, and then back up through a pulley fixed to the bottom of the ascender. It's a Z-drag! (although there is quite a bit of friction with the gri-gri in the system)