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skinnyz


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I recently read an old thread posted by "Deafclimber" in 2002. I was hoping to get a new discussion going. I am particularly interested in how deaf partners communicate when they are out of visual sight, as well as how deaf and hearing partners communicate with one another. Signs, gestures, and rope tugs seem to be the primary methods discussed in the past. Can anyone elaborate on the methods that they found useful?


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WHAT?
























try this http://www.rockclimbing.com/...=rope%20tugs;#846910


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huh?


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irregularpanda wrote:
WHAT?
























try this http://www.rockclimbing.com/...=rope%20tugs;#846910

beat me to the joke


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Type slower I am trying to read your fingers. really though I would say that rope tugs would be the standard on this one.


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I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.


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WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
No one should laugh at this.


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epoch wrote:
WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
No one should laugh at this.

Incorrect.


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jeeze...wait till he hears how I signal my blind partner.....


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RC.com has hit a new low.


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epoch wrote:
WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
No one should laugh at this.

I wasn't going to until you told me I shouldn't. Then I couldn't stop myself.


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epoch wrote:
WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
No one should laugh at this.

I'm going the hell then; lots of hells if there's more than one.Laugh

edit: typo


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skinnyz wrote:
I recently read an old thread posted by "Deafclimber" in 2002. I was hoping to get a new discussion going. I am particularly interested in how deaf partners communicate when they are out of visual sight, as well as how deaf and hearing partners communicate with one another. Signs, gestures, and rope tugs seem to be the primary methods discussed in the past. Can anyone elaborate on the methods that they found useful?

In all seriousness, I use two pulls for off belay, and three pulles for on belay.

Example:
Leader is safe on an anchor = 2 pulls
Belayor takes leader off belay = two pulls in return
Leader has second on belay = 3 pulls
Second is climbing = 3 pulls


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epoch wrote:
WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
No one should laugh at this.

True... but still....
Icy, probably going to hell for laughing at this one, Frosty


skinnyz


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Thanks for the link, that's exactly what I was looking for! Though I'm still a bit skeptical of a system that only has two signals to communicate everything. Plus there's too much room for error.


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WVUCLMBR wrote:
I climb with a deaf guy all the time.
I use a dog-shock-collar to buzz him as signals. 1 buzz=take, 2 buzz=slack, 3buzz= standby, 4 buzz= do you have an extra sandwich?, 5 buzz= hurry up u deaf bastard, 6 buzz= is this collar working?
It's not perfect and works really bad in the rain.
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The joke would be much better if it was about your mama:)


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ok...it was a bad joke and I'm sorry.....but it did make me think about using an electrical device.
I would imagine that one of the numerous radio's out there have a light/screen that lights up when recieving messages. So what about using a device to signal using a code (not necessarily morse)? This would be more clear to the deaf than rope tugs and would allow the deaf person to speak to his partner.Angelic


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I usually just text msg him.


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hummm wrote:
I usually just text msg him.
Laugh
OMFG t4k3 sum 5lak coz 1m f4ll1ng!!!


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WVUCLMBR wrote:
ok...it was a bad joke

you're wrong

WVUCLMBR wrote:
and I'm sorry.....

stand by your principles because they are yours and no one can take them from you

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CaptainPolution wrote:
irregularpanda wrote:
WHAT?
























try this http://www.rockclimbing.com/...=rope%20tugs;#846910

beat me to the joke

Damn. Looks like I missed the bus as well.


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WVUCLMBR wrote:
ok...it was a bad joke and I'm sorry.....but it did make me think about using an electrical device.
I would imagine that one of the numerous radio's out there have a light/screen that lights up when recieving messages. So what about using a device to signal using a code (not necessarily morse)? This would be more clear to the deaf than rope tugs and would allow the deaf person to speak to his partner.Angelic

I hope you're not sorry. All I could think of was the old "what did you say?"

Dog collars, brilliant. We're all going to hell.


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One my old partners and I used to use sign language all the time if we were within visual range, it works quite well instead of having to yell like crazy! (my other partners hate it when i use sign language, it confoosess them Tongue)

If out of range use rope tug system,

4 hardy pulls= off belay

then 5 hardy pulls to tell anchor is set and belay is on

Second responds back with 5 hard pulls that they're ready to climb

viola there we go (used to use 3's but that became confusing on pitches with rope drag)


skinnyz


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Finally, a serious response!

Thank youWink

Good info on adapting the old standard. I was concerned about rope drag issues and such. Before I knew about this rope tug system, I used to tug on the rope once or twice if I saw too much slack and my belayer was not paying attention. Fortunately for me, I used the right amount of tugs or it could have been disastrous. Maybe I just need more conscious partners!


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knieveltech wrote:
CaptainPolution wrote:
irregularpanda wrote:
WHAT?
























try this http://www.rockclimbing.com/...=rope%20tugs;#846910

beat me to the joke

Damn. Looks like I missed the bus as well.
it was the short bus. your seat was already taken anyway.

And epok?

.... yor rong.

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