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theirishman


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so would it work to take away the easy daisy and instead of traditional daisy chains, use an easy daisy, so when you would normally use the fifi hook, just pull the easy daisy tight?


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Thats the idea, yup. It works well.


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theirishman wrote:
so would it work to take away the easy daisy and instead of traditional daisy chains, use an easy daisy, so when you would normally use the fifi hook, just pull the easy daisy tight?

for some of us who do not follow every gear out there, it would be nice if you could identify easy daisy as this

http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/easydaisies.htm


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i used the yates versions of these when i first started out and i noticed one thing immediately. they encourage resting on the piece too much.

much faster, imho, to use traditional daisies and get up into the second step asap, fifi into the piece, and then get your next piece in the wall.

but, lots of folks use 'em.

also, keep in mind that the Metolius Easy daisies have a really low breaking strength- i cant remember what it is, but i want to say around 600lbs or so. the Yates (and fish models) are around 1500, if i recall.


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I've been aiding punter routes for a long time, but I learned a thing or two from Ron Olevsky's and Jeff Lowe's Clean Aid video.

I recommend it. He has a snappy single aider technique that is sweet.

http://www.jefflowe.info/...-videos/clean-walls/

DMT


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dingus wrote:
I've been aiding punter routes for a long time, but I learned a thing or two from Ron Olevsky's and Jeff Lowe's Clean Aid video.

I recommend it. He has a snappy single aider technique that is sweet.

http://www.jefflowe.info/...-videos/clean-walls/

DMT
Yeah, there's come pretty schweet stuff in there, though my favorite was his "tee'd off" technique with the floating ladder. I find I tend to use the "tee'd off" technique with a single aider on easy stuff. It keeps me motivated to move, 'cause there just ain't any gettin' comfortable with that, unless you pull out the floater ladder.

More a fan of the 'justable fifi than the E-Z-Dazee though. They're a good tool I'm sure, but just not a fan of needing to (send it in/retire it for good) when the webbing needs replacement. I can replace the accessroy cord on my fifi mid-route if need be.


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If your gonna use adj. daisies use the Yates or the Fish, don't use the Metolius. Not only is the breaking strength way lower but you also can't release the buckle under tension. That really sucks when your top stepping and your daisy is tight and you need a bit more length to get that piece in. Also if you use the Yates or Fish you can use them for short tension moves on traverses and all sorts of other trickery...


Oh if you plan on getting the Yates, don't get the kind with the screamers on them unless your planning on doing A4. You can't get as close to the piece with these as you can the standard ones.


Hope this helped...


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Popping the button is also very handy for horizontal traverses. You can really shove the piece way out there and cinch up on it. Then you just lower off the last piece, which is rather hard with a normal daisy or easy daisy.

Yates makes the best adjustable daisy for sure.


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moof wrote:
Popping the button is also very handy for horizontal traverses. You can really shove the piece way out there and cinch up on it. Then you just lower off the last piece, which is rather hard with a normal daisy or easy daisy.

Yates makes the best adjustable daisy for sure.

you right for sure

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majid_sabet wrote:
moof wrote:
Popping the button is also very handy for horizontal traverses. You can really shove the piece way out there and cinch up on it. Then you just lower off the last piece, which is rather hard with a normal daisy or easy daisy.

Yates makes the best adjustable daisy for sure.

you right for sure

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it looks to me like the daisy with the screamer in it may be better for beginners, or people who are prone to taking falls onto their daisys. Which would probably not be most people who are on A4 routes. Is it on there for some other reason?


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