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skelterjohn


Jun 16, 2008, 12:00 PM
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I followed a link out of a thread somewhere in these forums, and eventually found the description of a knot called the 'Double Dragon'! Anyone know anything about this knot? I think this would be way cooler than a bowline for tying in.

http://www.layhands.com/...ops.htm#DoubleDragon

Also those of you with the ability could check its durability?


adatesman


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the_climber


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It is an interesting knot. Very bowline-esk, but not a bowline. hmmm... I await testing results!


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I wonder if it would be a bear (or dragon) to untie after being weighted - unlike the bowline.


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billl7


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That doesn't sound too bad.

If you have time and dynamic rope to spare then you might try the same thing with the double dragon on one end and a simple bowline on the other. Depending on your rig, it could give pretty good comparison. (keep in mind it costs me hardly anything dream up suggestions. Smile )

Still, the data you've given doesn't sound bad.


knudenoggin


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Aric, I must wonder how tight you're setting this knot,
for I'd think that it would stay safely unjammed through rupture.

It's certainly UNbowlinesque--i.e., no central nipping loop with each
end in tension. There area quite a variety of such loopknots, including
the Perfection/Angler's Loop, and Ashley's #1034, some of which come
under the moniker of "tugboat" "bowlines", able to be formed in the
bight with a snap-dazzle flick of the wrists! YMMV.

There are many preferable loopknots to this, for climbing!

*kN*


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