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stymingersfink
Jul 17, 2008, 6:13 PM
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baja_java wrote: stymingersfink wrote: baja_java wrote: we did a 300' rap in one of the Zion canyons ...down two strands of a 700' static... ... ... ... all raps went fine, fairly routine... you do know how to do a 'biner block rappel, right?  yes, but didn't need. as said, that long rap went fairly routine, and i had the device with the least friction. have done many long raps before with that. two of our party were familiar with that rap, and have already done it numerous times. and we weren't determined to fast rap, as the OP wants to here
utilizing a biner block will negate the need for 700' of static line.
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AlexCV
Jul 17, 2008, 6:29 PM
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The best kind of bobbin is the ones where releasing or gripping the handle stops the descent. They only descend when the handle is kept at an intermediate position. This is because the panic reflex is to grip, not release the handle.
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sungam
Jul 17, 2008, 6:41 PM
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AlexCV wrote: The best kind of bobbin is the ones where releasing or gripping the handle stops the descent. They only descend when the handle is kept at an intermediate position. This is because the panic reflex is to grip, not release the handle.
OR dumbasses.
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AlexCV
Jul 17, 2008, 7:30 PM
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The OP seemed to have been having some money-making scheme in mind so he might well deal with dumbasses.
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sungam
Jul 17, 2008, 7:34 PM
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AlexCV wrote: The OP seemed to have been having some money-making scheme in mind so he might well deal with dumbasses.
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baja_java
Jul 17, 2008, 8:06 PM
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stymingersfink wrote: biner BLOCK (at the anchor), not a biner brake. there's a big difference. utilizing a biner block will negate the need for 700' of static line.
that we did for a rap with a shorter rope later on, but not for that initial extra long rap. one of us has a 700' rope, so we used it and retrieved it afterward
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getout87
Jul 17, 2008, 8:16 PM
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sungam wrote: AlexCV wrote: The OP seemed to have been having some money-making scheme in mind so he might well deal with dumbasses. true.
and to think that people pay money to rappel. dumb tards
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loonix
Jul 17, 2008, 8:36 PM
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getout87 wrote: sungam wrote: AlexCV wrote: The OP seemed to have been having some money-making scheme in mind so he might well deal with dumbasses. true. and to think that people pay money to rappel. dumb tards
Pretty useless post, that. Why do you bother?
Anyway, this cave in itself is quite spectacular, and the trip I've planned there involves an hour or two walk up to the top of the mountain, then the rappel down the vertical wall, before the cave starts. People would be arriving from the roof, which is about 80 meters high. The cave is made by the ocean, and the trip would continue by boat. I wouldn't call people dumb tards for wanting to do this, but then again, I don't think I'm all that arrogant either.
Now we could all wonder why I bothered replying to your post...
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sungam
Jul 17, 2008, 8:44 PM
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loonix wrote: getout87 wrote: sungam wrote: AlexCV wrote: The OP seemed to have been having some money-making scheme in mind so he might well deal with dumbasses. true. and to think that people pay money to rappel. dumb tards Pretty useless post, that. Why do you bother? Anyway, this cave in itself is quite spectacular, and the trip I've planned there involves an hour or two walk up to the top of the mountain, then the rappel down the vertical wall, before the cave starts. People would be arriving from the roof, which is about 80 meters high. The cave is made by the ocean, and the trip would continue by boat. I wouldn't call people dumb tards for wanting to do this, but then again, I don't think I'm all that arrogant either. Now we could all wonder why I bothered replying to your post...
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