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Contact the manufacturer of your rope.


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if you decided to retire it I will pay you for shipping and send to me.
MS.


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Please ignore majid_sabet he is a complete moron and has no knowledge of climbing theory. Depending on what type of grease it was you may be ok. However I suggest contacting the manufacturer as others have suggested. If you retire the rope I suggest sending it to the manufacturer or some other manufacturer in the USA to have it drop tested in accordance with the UIAA standards so you know if the grease was actually damaging or not. It always fun to know if a so called "damaged" product can still hold up to UIAA standards.


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newclimbing08 wrote:
Unfortunately on the way back from a local climbing spot the individual I was climbing with got a fair amount of grease on my rope after crossing some train tracks (I have learned my lesson-not to trust my ropes with other people). I scrubbed it with Dawn using a tooth brush, which did remove the grease. I was wondering if I should retire the rope or not?

bolding mine:
hummmm....... what were they doing, dragging the rope behind? wtf how does that happen. if the partner is that lax and dosen't pay attention to such a simple thing, ya might wanna keep a close eye on them while climbing


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newclimbing08 wrote:
Unfortunately on the way back from a local climbing spot the individual I was climbing with got a fair amount of grease on my rope after crossing some train tracks (I have learned my lesson-not to trust my ropes with other people). I scrubbed it with Dawn using a tooth brush, which did remove the grease. I was wondering if I should retire the rope or not?
The usual question is: is 80 quid worth worrying for the safety of your life?


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sungam wrote:
The usual question is: is 80 quid worth worrying for the safety of your life?


That depends. If one quid is, say, about $500,000, then sure.


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swaghole wrote:
sungam wrote:
The usual question is: is 80 quid worth worrying for the safety of your life?


That depends. If one quid is, say, about $500,000, then sure.
One quid is sitting at around 2 bucks somthin.


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newclimbing08 wrote:
Unfortunately on the way back from a local climbing spot the individual I was climbing with got a fair amount of grease on my rope after crossing some train tracks (I have learned my lesson-not to trust my ropes with other people). I scrubbed it with Dawn using a tooth brush, which did remove the grease. I was wondering if I should retire the rope or not?

It is probably okay. Grease itself shouldn't hurt the rope. It might attract a lot of grit into the rope if there is any left.

Where was the grease? How much did the rope get on it? The thing I would be worried about would be additives that might be in the grease. Most likely the grease is just grease.

Can you cut the end off and use the rest of the rope?


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Cutting the bit out is a good idea.


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hi majid,

sorry, genuinely confused - before you edited your post you said you'd donate it to rescue personel in developing countries for knot tying practice (or something along those lines)... was this for real?

as far as the grease goes, cutting out the affected section sounds like a plan if it's towards an end - if the grease didn't do any harm the cleaning may have. or not. i guess the easiest way to find out is to climb on it and see if you die. as people always say, is the risk of dying worth more than the $ for a new rope?

and don't lend your gear to that guy again. hell, if this was me i'd say that as soon as one of my friends damages gear through neglect it becomes his, and he owes me a replacement.

steve


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livinonasandbar wrote:
Contact the manufacturer of your rope.

Like I said...


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seatbeltpants wrote:
hi majid,

sorry, genuinely confused - before you edited your post you said you'd donate it to rescue personel in developing countries for knot tying practice (or something along those lines)... was this for real?

as far as the grease goes, cutting out the affected section sounds like a plan if it's towards an end - if the grease didn't do any harm the cleaning may have. or not. i guess the easiest way to find out is to climb on it and see if you die. as people always say, is the risk of dying worth more than the $ for a new rope?

and don't lend your gear to that guy again. hell, if this was me i'd say that as soon as one of my friends damages gear through neglect it becomes his, and he owes me a replacement.

steve

Yes, it is for real and I have been doing it for the past 10 year buying or getting donated climbing gear from climbers or other NGOs and taking it to third world countries giving it to SAR groups who can't effort of buying training materials . I edited my post cause I did not wanted to start another on-line argument with a retarded combat Navy commando.


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majid_sabet wrote:
seatbeltpants wrote:
hi majid,

sorry, genuinely confused - before you edited your post you said you'd donate it to rescue personel in developing countries for knot tying practice (or something along those lines)... was this for real?

as far as the grease goes, cutting out the affected section sounds like a plan if it's towards an end - if the grease didn't do any harm the cleaning may have. or not. i guess the easiest way to find out is to climb on it and see if you die. as people always say, is the risk of dying worth more than the $ for a new rope?

and don't lend your gear to that guy again. hell, if this was me i'd say that as soon as one of my friends damages gear through neglect it becomes his, and he owes me a replacement.

steve

Yes, it is for real and I have been doing it for the past 10 year buying or getting donated climbing gear from climbers or other NGOs and taking it to third world countries giving it to SAR groups who can't effort of buying training materials . I edited my post cause I did not wanted to start another on-line argument with a retarded combat Navy commando.
Good choice.


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Majid, you sure are a sucker for the old deleshons.
I wasn't being sarcastic, though. I mean it.


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sungam wrote:
swaghole wrote:
sungam wrote:
The usual question is: is 80 quid worth worrying for the safety of your life?


That depends. If one quid is, say, about $500,000, then sure.
One quid is sitting at around 2 bucks somthin.




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thats really cool majid i think i yelled at you once because you said to send the rope to you so you could check it out and i was like bull crap he wants to check it out but i think miss understood you so sry bout that. so what exactly to do you do with the rope you get?


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quiteatingmysteak wrote:
sungam wrote:
swaghole wrote:
sungam wrote:
The usual question is: is 80 quid worth worrying for the safety of your life?


That depends. If one quid is, say, about $500,000, then sure.
One quid is sitting at around 2 bucks somthin.

heh.
If you said buck should I post a pic of a deer?


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The rope is fine as long as it was only grease.
Disclaimer: rope is fine providing there is nothing else wrong with it. Grease tends to be found where lots of other nasty things are likely to exist.

If you like, and seeing as this is the 'lab', you can send me the rope for drop testing. Problem is it will be a sample of one and a used rope at that. Not much significant info can be extracted.

This is really a topic for 'Gear heads' unless we want to discuss setting up a study.


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This is from the manufacturer:

Unfortunately there is no way to tell what types of contaminants were in the grease. Many petroleum based products can harm nylon in ways that are not always visible yet they change the properties of the fibers. Because of the unknown affects of chemical contamination of ropes it is always recommended that the rope be retired.



To avoid future chemical contamination please consider using a protective rope bag and/or rope tarp. This can help you avoid casual contamination of your next rope.


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The rope was coiled, the grease only got on approximately 7, 4 to 5inch sections of the rope.
I did contact my organic chem professor from last year who stated grease itself would not damage nylon, but many times grease contains additives. So there is no real way of knowing unless I had a sample (and since I scrubbed it all off-not happening).


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Since you seem set on retiring it send it to SterlingJim and have him break it.


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