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porkchop_express


Oct 11, 2008, 2:02 AM
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i have a question about this route/problem... i saw a video of chris webb climbing it on youtube and the poster rated it v16...is that legit? I mean is it a consensus 16? I cant even climb near that grade but i figure that I would have heard about it if it were a 16... just wondering. Thanks.


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yes.


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Until Graham confirms it I'm not flipping out over the first v16 just yet. He tends to downgrade stuff, and has climbed enough 14s and 15s to know. Same goes for Sharma.


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Same goes for Dai.


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In all honesty, witeness the fitness looks harder, the holds are much crappier, so if wheel of life is a 16, witness the fitness (WTF) is....


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pr0x1mo wrote:
In all honesty, witeness the fitness looks harder,

Hahahahahahahahahah

hahahaha

ahaha ha

ha
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ha


Give me a fucking break, like you can tell from a video of a climb you couldn't climb if you superglued your hands to the holds.

You people crack me up sometimes.


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Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
In all honesty, witeness the fitness looks harder,

Hahahahahahahahahah

hahahaha

ahaha ha

ha
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ha


Give me a fucking break, like you can tell from a video of a climb you couldn't climb if you superglued your hands to the holds.

You people crack me up sometimes.


This man is the right one. I'll certainly listen to Sharma/Graham/Nicole's opinions, but let's not pretend we get to have thoughts about whether Dai Koyamada's supposed "soft" grading is actually true or not. All of these guys are climbing at a level well beyond the ability of rc.n00bers to conceptualize. It's like non-physicists trying to discuss nuances of string theory...it just comes off as silly posturing, which is pretty much accurate.


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I read an article about this and apparently, Wheel of Life links a bunch of V12s together. Thus, the whole thing, while very difficult, doesn't have an individual move harder than V12. Some have suggested it should have a route grade. Not that it matters, it's still impressive.


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Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
In all honesty, witeness the fitness looks harder,

Hahahahahahahahahah

hahahaha

ahaha ha

ha
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...


ha


Give me a fucking break, like you can tell from a video of a climb you couldn't climb if you superglued your hands to the holds.

You people crack me up sometimes.


you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH


Valarc


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you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

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Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

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ja1484 wrote:
All of these guys are climbing at a level well beyond the ability of rc.n00bers to conceptualize. It's like non-physicists trying to discuss nuances of string theory...it just comes off as silly posturing, which is pretty much accurate.

Speak for yourself. I can conceptualize V16. I think of it as twice as hard as V8. It's not rocket science.

Speaking of rocket science, I'd love to discuss the nuances of string theory as well.


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pr0x1mo wrote:
Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

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Quoted for posterity.
oh, I almost forgot...
You, sir, are a moron.


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duncanlennon wrote:
I read an article about this and apparently, Wheel of Life links a bunch of V12s together. Thus, the whole thing, while very difficult, doesn't have an individual move harder than V12. Some have suggested it should have a route grade. Not that it matters, it's still impressive.

well, on the surface your post seems very moronic. How many 5.13s or 5.14s do you think have a "move" of .13 or .14 (roughly v8-v10)?

I have heard several times that "To Be or Not to Bolt" does not have a move harder than v3. You would have to be a 5.14 climber to be able to do 60+ moves of solid v3, though.

However, you are touching upon the fact that endurance, not individual hard moves, can be just as relevant in boulder problems as to routes. Originally, the YDS was supposed to just grade the hardest single move. This would tell you little about a route at the RRG, or Indian Creek, or Maple Canyon, or about Witness the Fitness, or Wheel of Life.

The French get around this by assigned a separate "traverse" grade to longer problems that factors in endurance rather than just hard moves; Wheel of Life AND Witness the Fitness could both benefit from this.


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sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

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Quoted for posterity.
oh, I almost forgot...
You, sir, are a moron.

Well i didn't almost forget nothing, you're a bitch, whodie!


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pr0x1mo wrote:
sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

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oh, I almost forgot...
You, sir, are a moron.

Well i didn't almost forget nothing, you're a bitch, whodie!
Laugh "I almost didn't forget nothing" Laugh


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Valarc wrote:

Haha. that rocks.


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Oddly enough, that's the same drug induced conversation that gave Metallica it's start.


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sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

Brought to you in part by www.dictionary.com
Quoted for posterity.
oh, I almost forgot...
You, sir, are a moron.

Well i didn't almost forget nothing, you're a bitch, whodie!
Laugh "I almost didn't forget nothing" Laugh

only crakkka nerds try to correct grammar on the internet Sly


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pr0x1mo wrote:
sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
sungam wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Preserved for posterity? I responded to this thread days later and your internet geek ass was on scrutinizing every thread in hopes to have someone to expatiate with you lexicon abusing slut bag.

Brought to you in part by www.dictionary.com
Quoted for posterity.
oh, I almost forgot...
You, sir, are a moron.

Well i didn't almost forget nothing, you're a bitch, whodie!
Laugh "I almost didn't forget nothing" Laugh

only crakkka nerds try to correct grammar on the internet Sly






wow..........just wow


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Valarc wrote:
pr0x1mo wrote:
you couldn't flash a route with a fucking camera you n00b. step down or get chin checked with a fucking wrecking ball you manpri pink chalk bag faggot chausser, HOLLAH

preserved for posterity. Nothing I could say in response could possibly make you look like any more of a tool than you have managed yourself.

Too trueLaugh

If pr0x1mo is a troll he's really F'ing funny.
Maybe SUBTLE is bored and up to no good.


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He reminds me of protoslay.
Man I miss that kid, it was so fun to let him rip himself apart.


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hes gotta be someones alter ego

like aceto!


sungam


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Please, never relate this moron to Aceto the unfearing ever again.

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