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USnavy


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White is of course the most difficult color to see when the background is a shade of white. When a climber has a lot of assents a hangdod assent becomes a white line about one pixel tall which is impossible to see. I propose that the color is changed. Any color will do.


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Do you mean on the graph?


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Correct.


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USnavy wrote:
White is of course the most difficult color to see when the background is a shade of white. When a climber has a lot of assents a hangdod assent becomes a white line about one pixel tall which is impossible to see. I propose that the color is changed. Any color will do.

I propose that a person take the hangdog off of the ascent log in that it is not an ascent at all.


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climb4free wrote:
USnavy wrote:
White is of course the most difficult color to see when the background is a shade of white. When a climber has a lot of assents a hangdod assent becomes a white line about one pixel tall which is impossible to see. I propose that the color is changed. Any color will do.

I propose that a person take the hangdog off of the ascent log in that it is not an ascent at all.

Actually, by definition it is. The definition of ascent is "the act of rising or mounting upward ". When someone hangdogs a route it means either they have fallen on lead or rested on gear. However as long as they made upwards movement during their climb, they by definition created an ascent. WinkWink


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Dec 27, 2008, 2:29 AM
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climb4free wrote:
USnavy wrote:
White is of course the most difficult color to see when the background is a shade of white. When a climber has a lot of assents a hangdod assent becomes a white line about one pixel tall which is impossible to see. I propose that the color is changed. Any color will do.

I propose that a person take the hangdog off of the ascent log in that it is not an ascent at all.
This is dependent on area! Although unusual, there is at least one well known climbing area in the world where "resting", including on gear, does not nullify one's ascent. A later ascent w/o resting is actually then noted separately, but doesn't further affect the FA, or how any repeat ascents are to be achieved.

Edit: ...and what USNavy said...Otherwise we wouldn't need the terms "clean" and "free" ascents.
Most of my comment applies primarily to FAs.


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USnavy wrote:
climb4free wrote:
USnavy wrote:
White is of course the most difficult color to see when the background is a shade of white. When a climber has a lot of assents a hangdod assent becomes a white line about one pixel tall which is impossible to see. I propose that the color is changed. Any color will do.

I propose that a person take the hangdog off of the ascent log in that it is not an ascent at all.

Actually, by definition it is. The definition of ascent is "the act of rising or mounting upward ". When someone hangdogs a route it means either they have fallen on lead or rested on gear. However as long as they made upwards movement during their climb, they by definition created an ascent. WinkWink

I agree with your definition of the word 'ascent'. And I agree with the use of hangdogging for working a route and pushing your limits. I do not agree with the notion, implied or direct, that if I weighted the rope, that I climbed the route. A climbers lexicon would define ascent as bottom to top with no falls.

I really like the climbing log on this site and have been an advocate of it from the time I discovered its features. Maybe its just my personal preference, but I prefer to follow the 11th commandment.
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Thou shalt not fooleth thy selfeth


caughtinside


Dec 27, 2008, 10:54 AM
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The hangdog option is good for recordkeeping if that's your thing. I don't know why people get so worked up if other people want to keep track of routes they have gotten on and dogged.

People aren't that impressed by you style puritans.


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Dec 30, 2008, 11:45 AM
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I disagree.

The "hangdog" option should be deleted.


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Sorry folks, but as long as there are people on here using it for... whatever they use it for, "Hangdog" stays.


USnavy


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Good. So can we change the color so we can see it? :)


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angry wrote:
I disagree.

The "hangdog" option should be deleted.

You should be deleted.


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I don't see why not. But, it'll be a sort of low-ish priority, I'm afraid. Lemme see if ddt knows how. If so, that'd be the fastest.


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Done!


USnavy


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Cool, thanks.


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