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bigsky876
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Good morning Israeli Climbers!
My name is Garrett Smith, I am coming over to Israel from the 5th-18th of March to visit and shoot photographs, I am climbing photographer and would love to get out and document the culture and climbing of Israel. If there is anybody that would be willing to take me out with them for a day of shooting, I would be psyched and I feel it would build world awareness of the climbing there as I plan to write an article for Climbing magazine about the climbing and culture there. Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from somebody.
visit www.hammersincphoto.com to see some of my work
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bigsky876 wrote: Good morning Israeli Climbers! My name is Garrett Smith, I am coming over to Israel from the 5th-18th of March to visit and shoot photographs, I am climbing photographer and would love to get out and document the culture and climbing of Israel. If there is anybody that would be willing to take me out with them for a day of shooting, I would be psyched and I feel it would build world awareness of the climbing there as I plan to write an article for Climbing magazine about the climbing and culture there. Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from somebody. visit http://www.hammersincphoto.com to see some of my work |
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majid_sabet
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Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there.
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Basta916
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majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there.
Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident?????????
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majid_sabet
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Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident?????????
no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes
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Basta916
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majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes
I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ????????
But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing.....
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Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ???????? But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing.....
2 layt!
DMT
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seanpmccormick
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BigSky, are you friends with Natasha and Mike?
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dr_feelgood
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Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ???????? But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing.....
The 1,300 palestinians killed by Israel? Fuck em, right? They must all be terrorists.
If you look really close, you can see the suicide vest poking out from underneath his diaper. He must be a terrorist.
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Basta916
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dr_feelgood wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ???????? But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing..... Those 13 poor, poor people. My heart truly goes out to them. The 1,300 palestinians killed by Israel? Fuck em, right? They must all be terrorists. [image]http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20photo%20negatives/2003%20news%20phot%20negatives/July/girlg30.jpg[/image] If you look really close, you can see the suicide vest poking out from underneath his diaper. He must be a terrorist.
Not sure how is that about Climbing...but looking at a picture....could be anything....car accident???????....climbing accident?????? ....
But let me help you understand..... sarcasm ....and according to an article I read , not getting sarcasm is a first sign of Dementia
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bigsky876
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These are all really great uninformed opinions about a situation that none of you have any clue about. Let's keep this post focused on the original inquiry about meeting climbers abroad to build friendships and create photos. So again, if anybody lives in Israel or know somebody who lives there; I will be there from the 5th-18th of March shooting images, and would enjoy and appreciate immensely the opportunity to get out and climb with you.
Cheers
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Basta916
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oh yeah......btw great photos on your site
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dr_feelgood
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Basta916 wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ???????? But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing..... Those 13 poor, poor people. My heart truly goes out to them. The 1,300 palestinians killed by Israel? Fuck em, right? They must all be terrorists. If you look really close, you can see the suicide vest poking out from underneath his diaper. He must be a terrorist. Not sure how is that about Climbing...but looking at a picture....could be anything....car accident???????....climbing accident?????? .... But let me help you understand..... sarcasm ....and according to an article I read , not getting sarcasm is a first sign of Dementia
Could be anything? It was taken by an Al Jazeerah Photographer in Gaza during the time of Israel's invasion. Yup. A 5 year old covered in blood and perforated by shrapnel. Must have been a climbing accident.
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Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Basta916 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: Stop in GAZA while you are there and take some photos for some of us and post it here so we know what is happening there. Are You planing to somehow write a report about Gaza being a Climbing accident????????? no but defiantly write how poor people were killed to death by bunch war loving as*holes I see. And You are talking about poor people killed by Hamas ???????? But, this is Climbing forum, so lets keep it about Climbing.....
wake up
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Basta916
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dr_feelgood wrote: [ Could be anything? It was taken by an Al Jazeerah Photographer in Gaza during the time of Israel's invasion. Yup. A 5 year old covered in blood and perforated by shrapnel. Must have been a climbing accident.
YES...it could be anything. Look at a Picture( I see a man with injured child in his arms and what looks like a car in a background) !!!!!!and please, Al Jazeerah?????????? you found reliable source of information .....
Only reliable information in this post was Dingus...
and to point out.....If someone said he/she is going to lets say Brazil and asked for a climbers there, would Majid or anyone else ask for pictures of Slums, because of poor people living in hard conditions????
I dont think so!!!!!
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ian
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Boycott the Apartheid Terror state of israel and their crags!!!
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I think that the real truth revealed in this thread is that if people found something worthwhile to do, such as climbing tall things made of stone, as opposed to brooding over some farcical fairytale in which a magic, invisible superhero grants a specific race of people a marginal tract of land for no apparent reason and then tells them to kill anyone else who tries to live there (ironically having already told another group of morons the exact same thing about the same piece of real estate), the world would be much happier.
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Ian- careful man. Israel is NOT blameless, but an apartheid terror state they are not. Those are big words with big history, and one should not throw them around so cavalierly.
Coach-Kyle: if you think that the issues and claims to the land in and around the state of Israel are purely religious you are mistaken. Again, I will repeat my point above that Israel is NOT blameless (just to put my views in perspective). The way they have treated the Palestinians is shameful and the way the Israeli government keeps protecting the settlers despite having told them it was illegal is provocative at best. However the claim to the land is not about religion but rather history- the necessity of the state of Israel is of utmost importance.
That said, it was unfortunate that between 1945 and 1948 the refugees coming out of Europe kept going to Israel. It was unfortunate that in 1948 when the British gave up rule of one of their colonies they created a royal mess by completely ignoring the Palestinians when creating Israel. I still believe that while Israel is a total necessity it would have been more politically advantageous TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL if it could have been created on reclaimed farm-land in Nebraska, or in northern Norway, or perhaps on some of the pampas of Argentina.
The point being, the state of Israel did not need to be created in the biblically referenced Holy Land. There was no need for that. There was a need for the state to be created however, and it is a blessing that it was. The unfortunate thing is that the state also needs to be defended, and its right to exist defended even more fiercely, however the geographical position of the state makes this an unbelievably tricky endeavor. Again, Israel is not blameless in their actions- but neither are the Palestinians, and some of Israel's less than popular actions were necessary.
This is not about the supposed religious claim to a piece of land but rather about the claim for a people to be self-reliant and more once in their history to dictate their own destiny. We are not the only ones facing this problem, but that fact only changes so much.
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Basta916 wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: [ Could be anything? It was taken by an Al Jazeerah Photographer in Gaza during the time of Israel's invasion. Yup. A 5 year old covered in blood and perforated by shrapnel. Must have been a climbing accident. YES...it could be anything. Look at a Picture( I see a man with injured child in his arms and what looks like a car in a background) !!!!!!and please, Al Jazeerah?????????? you found reliable source of information ..... Only reliable information in this post was Dingus... and to point out.....If someone said he/she is going to lets say Brazil and asked for a climbers there, would Majid or anyone else ask for pictures of Slums, because of poor people living in hard conditions???? I dont think so!!!!!
I would trust the reports coming from Al Jazeerah from within the Gaza Strip over those coming from CNN from the Gaza-Egypt border. Just because they are a predominantly moslem news source does not mean that they are inaccurate, it is merely your eurocentric, racist views that discredit them as a source of information. I'm sure I can dig up some other pictures of dead Palestinian children from "reputable" news sources if that doesn't do it for you.
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bigsky876
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I do not know them.. would they be some good contacts for this goal?
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bigsky876
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Thank you for this insight Atletis(SP?) All those that have commented on this post need to make sure they have done some serious background studies on the history of this region, all the way back. The is blood on the hands of both sides, and their current actions while detestable from a humanitarian perspective need to understood from a defensive need. The picture of the Palestinian child is heartbreaking, but there are equal amounts of imagery that show Jewish/Israeli children dead and damaged. Don't jump on the biased band wagon of mass-media, that's what got us the our new president. Study out the situations from all sides and create your own conclusions based on logic NOT EMOTION. Hopefully somebody out there has some contacts that will enable me to get out and shoot the climbers of this region....
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No sorry. Met a photographer name Garret and his friends are from Montana (Big Sky Country) and the pieces fit.
Guess I don't need to write this in the forum, so, I'm done. Good luck on your shoot!
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I know that this is a thread that is supposed to exploit the climbing and photo opportunities in Israel, but it no longer belongs where it originated. This discussion is well suited for the Soap Box, and that is where it will go....
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please. and i say this quite respectfully, DO NOT presume to tell me where I get my information from.
and please, READ MY POST. i said many times israel is not blameless. the way they protect (with force) the settlers who are there illegal is shameful. the way the keep pressing into gaza is unbelievable. the atrocity of the 1982 invasion of lebanon will forever be a mar on the conscious of the israeli people specifically and jews generally.
and understand that what comes next does not EXCUSE this behavior, but rather gives some perspective. actually, screw that. do your own research. i've done mine. i am not spoon-fed by the "zionist owned media", and am willing to talk fact all day long. however your own bias is quite clear- i am willing to partake in a DIALOGUE but you shouting at me telling me i'm a pawn of the media when you have never met me or spoken with me before this encounter is unfortunate.
actually, its more than unfortunate. it is EXPLEMPLARY of the mindset of both palestinians and israelis (wow- your totally imaginative "israhell" really impressed me....) that help to fuel this terrible situation.
so if you are willing to proceed with a give and take, i'd be very excited. if not, well, i'll see you later.
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