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chezdillon
Mar 19, 2009, 6:16 AM
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This is from the Pilot Mountain website.
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Limit imposed of 20 persons in Rock climbing Groups ...
Due to overcrowding and resource damage from large organized groups of rockclimbers, a limit of twenty people per group (which includes support staff climbers, and spectators) has been imposed at Pilot Mountain. Climbers in large groups are asked to practice courtesy and not block the trail, adjacent climbing routes, or spread out in large areas. These actions are causing conflict with other visitors and causing compaction, erosion, and loss of vegetation above and below the climbing area.
http://www.ncparks.gov/.../parks/pimo/main.php
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- Jeff
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johnwesely
Mar 19, 2009, 6:25 AM
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20 is still a huge group. Why not make it 10?
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sungam
Mar 19, 2009, 6:38 AM
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I was hoping it was going to limit groups to around 6 
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gothcopter
Mar 19, 2009, 6:51 AM
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johnwesely wrote: 20 is still a huge group. Why not make it 10?
My thoughts exactly. Ten people is about the maximum number you could have there without causing problems -- and even ten is pushing it. Pilot is crowded enough without any large groups being there. It must have been one hell of a mob scene to precipitate this new rule!
My one concern is that whatever large groups have been desecrating Pilot will now move on to the other, good places to climb in North Carolina. Pilot has always been the "sacrificial lamb". Maybe we can convince them all to go to Crowders Mountain?
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naitch
Mar 19, 2009, 7:31 AM
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I think it should be 4! Why the hell do people feel the need to climb in groups that large??? Stay in the gym or go to bingo night if your social needs aren't being met. Sheesh!
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johnwesely
Mar 19, 2009, 7:35 AM
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That is probably more reasonable. I don't think that I have ever climbed in a group bigger than six.
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seanpmccormick
Mar 19, 2009, 11:23 AM
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This almost seems like an absurd request. I don't want to keep reiterating what's been said but I can't even imagine one group of twenty being organized to climb at a place as small as Pilot. Sorry, I reiterated...
I'm new to the area so I'm not really sure of the organized climbing that goes on. Does this issue need to be addressed with a climbing gym/shop/school/club that shows up in such massive groups?
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Carnage
Mar 19, 2009, 11:50 AM
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they newbs will still throw up TR's on the bears, get up to the one with the roof crack on it (i dont remember the name) and flail on it. Its like 5.6 climbing up to this one 10a ish move near the top. They get up to it and are like, "damn, i almost had it!"
get off my fucking routes. ill give you anything 8 or under if you stay off anything above that.
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sungam
Mar 19, 2009, 12:16 PM
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Carnage wrote: they newbs will still throw up TR's on the bears, get up to the one with the roof crack on it (i dont remember the name) and flail on it. Its like 5.6 climbing up to this one 10a ish move near the top. They get up to it and are like, "damn, i almost had it!" get off my fucking routes. ill give you anything 8 or under if you stay off anything above that.
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granite_grrl
Mar 19, 2009, 12:29 PM
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How big were the groups that they feel that limiting them to 20 would be a solution?
FWIW - I hate when people bring out groups of any size. I limit myself to climbing with one n00b at a time, I would appreciate if they could do the same.
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