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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
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Hey All, Looking for any advice or feedback on this rope.. bday time and some friends had mentioned they're gonna pick up a rope for me (effing awesome friends).. looking for a workhorse rope since many people who come with us like to TR, but also want to make sure I'll like it for leading.. Seems likea good compromise... 9.9, amazing feeling sheeth.. Anyone have durability issues? Stiff? Not stiff? Does it like to kink? Any feedback.. Much appreciated!
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Tipton
Apr 8, 2009, 3:39 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: Hey All, Looking for any advice or feedback on this rope.. bday time and some friends had mentioned they're gonna pick up a rope for me (effing awesome friends).. looking for a workhorse rope since many people who come with us like to TR, but also want to make sure I'll like it for leading.. Seems likea good compromise... 9.9, amazing feeling sheeth.. Anyone have durability issues? Stiff? Not stiff? Does it like to kink? Any feedback.. Much appreciated! No feedback on the rope, but 9.9 doesn't seem like a compromise to me. That's into skinny territory. Wouldn't a 10.2 be a better compromise between the <10 skinny and the >10.5 workhorse? I sure wouldn't want to run a 9.9 through a top rope with a bunch of hang dogging friends. Unless 9.9 is the new 10.2 I would get a bigger cord.
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a-e-jones
Apr 8, 2009, 3:42 PM
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do it mate, i love all my new englands, my beals are now toast and aren't comming back home with me to canada, and my mammut is going the same route as that mammut i told you not to buy way back when we were shopping for a first rope for you, i'll tell you more next time i see you online
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kennoyce
Apr 8, 2009, 3:43 PM
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I completely agree. I always use a 10.2 as a compromise rope size. If I am getting a thin cord for sportclimbing I'll usually get a 9.8 so that it will still last a little while but I would never take anyone toproping on it. If I'm getting a rope just for toproping, I'll get a 10.5. 10.2 falls right inbetween and is a fairly good compromise size. edited for spelling
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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 3:45 PM
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Thanks for the advice...somthing to consider for sure... though I do think that with improvements in manufacturing the sizing is starting to go down a bit.. 9.5's seem to be picking up where 9.8 left off... But..to your point, I'll make sure to take a serious look at the larger diameters before my friends get to the store first! (thats the one problem..not being there to feel everything and make a judgement call) Cheers
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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 3:47 PM
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JOnes!..Get your ass back here man!
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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 3:48 PM
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see..the primary use will be sport climbing for me....I just know I will end up with some top ropers on it ... ..but the primary purpose is for me and sport climbing.. Would you say that the rope is not safe to use in this capacity? Thanks for the advice!
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a-e-jones
Apr 8, 2009, 3:51 PM
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the rope is totally safe, it'll just in theory need to be replaced faster then a thicker diameter rope i.e. that 10.5 mammut you got and you blew through in a season, or my new england maxim 9.9 thats on its 3rd season and looking as good as ever edit for some typos, damn you french keyboards
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kennoyce
Apr 8, 2009, 3:56 PM
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I'm not saying that you can't get a rope thats thinner than a 9.8, you can obviously get one much thinner than that, I'm just saying that if you want your rope to last a decent ammount of time 9.8 is a good compromise between weight and durribility for a lead only thin rope, and 10.2 is a good compromise of wight and durribility for a lead and TR rope.
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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 3:57 PM
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I think I've got the discount POS mammut infinity... I have shaken my fist at that rope each and every time it comes out of the bag! ... not stiffness at all.. sheath is suprizingly less intact then is should be for the amount of use its seen, and it kinks like thats its job! The glider sheeth felt solid as could be, smooth..and seems stiff, but I didn't get a run on it... perhaps I'll compromise in another way... "you wanna top rope?"... "better bring your own rope them" ; p
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a-e-jones
Apr 8, 2009, 4:01 PM
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or tell them to grow a set of balls and throw them on the lead, over here i have yet to see someone on the TR dude you should come on over, i'm gonna go for an epic 3 weeks in russia this summer, and i would perfer a partner that speaks english
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shouldah
Apr 8, 2009, 4:23 PM
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i highly reccomend this rope, it has performed excellent for me. it has endured two seasons of mostly sport climbing with a fair amount of trad, a season of ice climbing and one trip to the desert. it is only now starting to show noticeable signs of wear, some fuzziness and loss of dry treatment. i will probably retire it at the end of this rock season. note: the rope has been used in the applications mentioned above at least twice a week since i got it
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patmay81
Apr 8, 2009, 4:55 PM
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I use a maxim 10.2 for sport climbing, and it works great. I got it basically for the same reasons you are describing, for sport projects (for myself) and as a top rope for my family/friends.
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Tipton
Apr 8, 2009, 5:12 PM
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Why don't you just use your old rope for top roping? That's what you do with an old rope that isn't completely screwed. Sounds like you have an old fuzzy in your Mammut Infinity that would be perfect for the job.
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Parkerkat
Apr 8, 2009, 5:50 PM
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I hated the thing sooo much I cut it in half, sold one to someone at the gym and kept the other half for the gym (we're downtown riding the subway to the gym, so 30M made alot of sense at that point).... it was basically my excuse to make sure I never spend a weekend in the woods with that rope again!
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murph24
Apr 8, 2009, 10:42 PM
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shouldah wrote: i highly reccomend this rope, it has performed excellent for me. it has endured two seasons of mostly sport climbing with a fair amount of trad, a season of ice climbing and one trip to the desert. it is only now starting to show noticeable signs of wear, some fuzziness and loss of dry treatment. i will probably retire it at the end of this rock season. note: the rope has been used in the applications mentioned above at least twice a week since i got it that is good to hear, I have on coming in the mail, should be here any day now. My old/first rope (10.3) has quite a bit of toprope life in it but I got this one for a lead only rope.... can't wait to fall on it!
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Parkerkat
Apr 13, 2009, 7:35 PM
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In case this makes any difference..got the rope out on the rocks this weekend....f-ing amazing! Smooth, clips well, durable so far! the 9.9 that feels like a 9.5... Enjoy it dude!
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murph24
Apr 16, 2009, 1:54 AM
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Parkerkat wrote: In case this makes any difference..got the rope out on the rocks this weekend....f-ing amazing! Smooth, clips well, durable so far! the 9.9 that feels like a 9.5... Enjoy it dude! It came in this week, damn it's a sexy rope... can't wait to fall on it this weekend
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Parkerkat
Apr 16, 2009, 1:15 PM
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Better yet, hope you send something sick with it! Have fun!
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jolery
Dec 2, 2010, 4:52 PM
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Parkerkat wrote: I hated the thing sooo much I cut it in half, sold one to someone at the gym and kept the other half for the gym quote] Hey what was your issue with the rope out of curiosity, as I am considering buying one of these. Was it sheath wear? My partner has one of these which I absolutely love everything about it except sheath durability on his seems to suck. The few reviews I find online seem to agree with poor sheath durability. Anyone else got some input??
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acorneau
Dec 3, 2010, 2:21 AM
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jolery wrote: Parkerkat wrote: I hated the thing sooo much I cut it in half, sold one to someone at the gym and kept the other half for the gym quote] Hey what was your issue with the rope out of curiosity, as I am considering buying one of these. Was it sheath wear? My partner has one of these which I absolutely love everything about it except sheath durability on his seems to suck. The few reviews I find online seem to agree with poor sheath durability. Anyone else got some input?? Learn how to not cheeztit?!?
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USnavy
Dec 3, 2010, 11:24 AM
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Parkerkat wrote: Hey All, Looking for any advice or feedback on this rope.. bday time and some friends had mentioned they're gonna pick up a rope for me (effing awesome friends).. looking for a workhorse rope since many people who come with us like to TR, but also want to make sure I'll like it for leading.. Seems likea good compromise... 9.9, amazing feeling sheeth.. Anyone have durability issues? Stiff? Not stiff? Does it like to kink? Any feedback.. Much appreciated! I own the 9.5mm (Pinnacle), 9.9mm and 10.5mm versions of the Glider. They are all great ropes. They clip really easy and last a long time. They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. But otherwise a great rope.
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notapplicable
Dec 3, 2010, 1:46 PM
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USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. Is this borne out by empirical observation (hard catches) or just theoretical based on the peak impact force rating?
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USnavy
Dec 3, 2010, 2:27 PM
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notapplicable wrote: USnavy wrote: They do have a rather high impact force though so I wouldn’t use them for trad. Is this borne out by empirical observation (hard catches) or just theoretical based on the peak impact force rating? The rope has an impact force rating of 9.5 kN and with a dynamic elongation of only 29%, it’s not hard to see why. But yes it does give a harder catch than other ropes (say Beal) with a lower impact force rating. But how hard of a catch you get is also highly dependent on the belayer.
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healyje
Dec 5, 2010, 11:20 AM
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Love this rope. My standard is the Mammut Supersafe 10.2 and this rope handles very similar. It has a unique twill sheath compared to most ropes and I'm guessing it will perform almost as well as the Supersafe's. I pretty much just use this rope paired with an Edlerid Eddy for multipitch, lead roped-soloing. Almost all my climbing is multipitch trad (4-6 pitches) and this past year probably 60-70% of it has been roped-solo on this rope. Can't say enough good things about it really. Will definitely be getting another one.
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