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bill413


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sungam wrote:
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A climber is wearing socks with his climbing shoes, 50 points (exceptions apply if the climber is above 50yo and the socks are tube-style, in that case subtract 50)
[image]http://www.hotaches.com/images/perfectcrime4_SM.jpg[/image]
That would be Dave MacLeod on Perfect Crime 8B.

Ah, but is that sport?


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This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better


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evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b


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jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

explain


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evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

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Read the responses to this post and the trad version. This one has some validity. The other was devised by a n00b himself.


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jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

explain

Read the responses to this post and the trad version. This one has some validity. The other was devised by a n00b himself.

yeah thats true, but some things just seemed kinda contrived... like the red one. i have a #1 camalot, does that count??


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evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

explain

Read the responses to this post and the trad version. This one has some validity. The other was devised by a n00b himself.

yeah thats true, but some things just seemed kinda contrived... like the red one. i have a #1 camalot, does that count??

Yes! Why are you climbing with a #1 camalot at a sport crag, n00b?


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Have you heard about all those rad areas in the southeast?































Me either.


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bandycoot wrote:
evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

explain

Read the responses to this post and the trad version. This one has some validity. The other was devised by a n00b himself.

yeah thats true, but some things just seemed kinda contrived... like the red one. i have a #1 camalot, does that count??

Yes! Why are you climbing with a #1 camalot at a sport crag, n00b?

HOLY FUCK!!!!!! wow i'm an idiot.....


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actually on second thought... i would be considered a sport noob... i've only done four sport routes, a 7R, 10b, 11a, and 12b...

i'm a trad nut...


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Somwhere out there is a noob who will score 0 based on reading this thread and acting accordingly.


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scotchie wrote:
Somwhere out there is a noob who will score 0 based on reading this thread and acting accordingly.

No, n00bs never really read anything properly nor do they do any proper research. That's a big part of what makes them n00bs.


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kriso9tails wrote:
scotchie wrote:
Somwhere out there is a noob who will score 0 based on reading this thread and acting accordingly.

No, n00bs never really read anything properly nor do they do any proper research. That's a big part of what makes them n00bs.
BS, there are tons of n00bs who do research. it's part of making the step from n00b to novice. I think you're confusing n00b with gumby.


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No.


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I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.


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There are all sorts of noobs, like unpolished turds every damn one of them.

DMT


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fresh wrote:
I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.

That would seem to imply that old climbers (and / or longer term climbers) can't be n00bs.
Better recheck the definition.


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bill413 wrote:
fresh wrote:
I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.

That would seem to imply that old climbers (and / or longer term climbers) can't be n00bs.
Better recheck the definition.
meh, I'll leave it to you guys.


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bill413 wrote:
fresh wrote:
I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.

That would seem to imply that old climbers (and / or longer term climbers) can't be n00bs.
Better recheck the definition.

Uh, I think you're the one unclear on the definition. A n00b is someone who's new, at least to that arena. For example, I'm an aid n00b, having only done one small wall successfully, and having done less than 50 aid pitches. But I'm reasonably experienced in sport and trad.

What did you think it meant?

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cracklover wrote:
bill413 wrote:
fresh wrote:
I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.

That would seem to imply that old climbers (and / or longer term climbers) can't be n00bs.
Better recheck the definition.

Uh, I think you're the one unclear on the definition. A n00b is someone who's new, at least to that arena. For example, I'm an aid n00b, having only done one small wall successfully, and having done less than 50 aid pitches. But I'm reasonably experienced in sport and trad.

What did you think it meant?

GO

I think he was suggesting that there are some who have climbed for years but never learned anything from the experience, hence they are still n00bs.


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It's largely pejorative though, perhaps not in its origins, but in this usage. You call someone a n00b when they actually are new and are woefully na´ve or when they've been around awhile and are completely ignorant (as in, "What are you, a fucking n00b?").


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evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

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Read the time stamps. Jay basically wrote the trad one, too.


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climbsomething wrote:
evanwish wrote:
jt512 wrote:
evanwish wrote:
This one kinda sucks... The trad one was much better

n00b

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Read the time stamps. Jay basically wrote the trad one, too.

I wouldn't say that I basically wrote the trad version. Rather, some n00b who didn't like his score on this test (not that this test was ever intended for self-scoring) went and developed a supposed trad version. But his version fails for two reasons: one, being a n00b himself, he gave completely wrong scores for many items; and, two, he based some items (like helmets) on value judgments, rather than observation.

Jay

P.S. I made a rare visit to Holcomb Valley Pinnacles this weekend, and believe me, this test is valid. I should have taken a few illustrative portraits.


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bill413 wrote:
sungam wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
A climber is wearing socks with his climbing shoes, 50 points (exceptions apply if the climber is above 50yo and the socks are tube-style, in that case subtract 50)
[image]http://www.hotaches.com/images/perfectcrime4_SM.jpg[/image]
That would be Dave MacLeod on Perfect Crime 8B.

Ah, but is that sport?
No, but I was actually looking for the one of him crushing an 8c spurt wearing socks. Couldn't find it though - I think it was happiness in slavery.


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scotchie wrote:
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bill413 wrote:
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I dunno. I think n00bs are new climbers who don't know shit but might be able to learn.

That would seem to imply that old climbers (and / or longer term climbers) can't be n00bs.
Better recheck the definition.

Uh, I think you're the one unclear on the definition. A n00b is someone who's new, at least to that arena. For example, I'm an aid n00b, having only done one small wall successfully, and having done less than 50 aid pitches. But I'm reasonably experienced in sport and trad.

What did you think it meant?

GO

I think he was suggesting that there are some who have climbed for years but never learned anything from the experience, hence they are still n00bs.

You're confused. When I call my friend who takes forever on descents because he steps so carefully - a "granny" - that does not mean that the definition of grandmother includes twenty-something year old men.

GO

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