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rock_fencer
Sep 21, 2009, 9:15 PM
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i dont climb ice yet but that almsot made me crap myself
nice vid too
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mushroom
Sep 21, 2009, 9:43 PM
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oops!
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rhythm164
Sep 21, 2009, 9:54 PM
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Le *soiled underpants*
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taydude
Sep 21, 2009, 9:58 PM
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HOLY SHIT! I'll stick to rocks thanks.
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hafilax
Sep 21, 2009, 10:04 PM
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I hope he had some pro in something other than that pillar! 
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moose_droppings
Sep 21, 2009, 10:47 PM
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Wow!!!111
I'd liked to of seen the rest of that ride too.
This will be my first year trying ice out and I'm watching that. 
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hafilax
Sep 21, 2009, 10:53 PM
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Given where the camera man is, it looked to me like there might be something in the wall behind him to the right.
Does a pillar touch the ground and a dagger hang like a stalactite?
I can't seem to get any terminology right today.
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granite_grrl
Sep 21, 2009, 11:05 PM
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hafilax wrote: Given where the camera man is, it looked to me like there might be something in the wall behind him to the right. Does a pillar touch the ground and a dagger hang like a stalactite? I can't seem to get any terminology right today.
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reno
Sep 22, 2009, 12:35 AM
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granite_grrl wrote: hafilax wrote: Given where the camera man is, it looked to me like there might be something in the wall behind him to the right. Does a pillar touch the ground and a dagger hang like a stalactite? I can't seem to get any terminology right today. Yeah, a dagger would be hanging, and I'm pretty sure that's what he was on. Likely he would have had gear somewhere before he transferred over to it.
That's always been the termnology I've heard and used as well: if it touches the ground, it's a pillar. If not, it's. Dagger (or 'cicle). Either way, that's a fall I wouldn't want to take.
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dr_feelgood
Sep 22, 2009, 1:53 AM
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reno wrote: granite_grrl wrote: hafilax wrote: Given where the camera man is, it looked to me like there might be something in the wall behind him to the right. Does a pillar touch the ground and a dagger hang like a stalactite? I can't seem to get any terminology right today. Yeah, a dagger would be hanging, and I'm pretty sure that's what he was on. Likely he would have had gear somewhere before he transferred over to it. That's always been the termnology I've heard and used as well: if it touches the ground, it's a pillar. If not, it's. Dagger (or 'cicle). Either way, that's a fall I wouldn't want to take.
Yeah, ummm...
Ouch?
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kachoong
Sep 22, 2009, 12:58 PM
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Sweet find, reno!
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nattfodd
Sep 22, 2009, 1:30 PM
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I've always wondered what would happen if that stuff took place while you had a screw on the icicle and the rope clipped into it, even if the climber was actually above the part that launches. My guess is that everyone connected to the rope would be toast, or would the power of the thing be enough to cut the rope or rip the screw before climber and belayer sustain big injuries? Any known cases in ice climbing history?
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angry
Sep 22, 2009, 1:33 PM
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There is a story where one came loose on the late Alex Lowe. He rode the pillar to the ground like a surfboard and jumped off when the moment was right.
He'd probably have died if he'd placed a screw (he probably didn't even have a rope with him either).
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walkonyourhands
Sep 22, 2009, 1:43 PM
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It doesn't look like it's the same guy, but Urs Odermatt took quite a ride in 2005 when he went down with a collapsing pillar. The best collection of pics I could find are in this pdf: http://www.bergundsteigen.at/...20saeule%20ab%29.pdf
As he writes, it was a 25 meter fall with 30 tons of ice. Landed in the snow and was practically uninjured.
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kachoong
Sep 22, 2009, 2:31 PM
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walkonyourhands wrote: It doesn't look like it's the same guy, but Urs Odermatt took quite a ride in 2005 when he went down with a collapsing pillar. The best collection of pics I could find are in this pdf: http://www.bergundsteigen.at/...20saeule%20ab%29.pdf As he writes, it was a 25 meter fall with 30 tons of ice. Landed in the snow and was practically uninjured.
Yeah, I believe those pics were in Alpinist #14 also.
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boymeetsrock
Sep 22, 2009, 5:01 PM
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boymeetsrock
Sep 22, 2009, 5:02 PM
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kachoong wrote: walkonyourhands wrote: It doesn't look like it's the same guy, but Urs Odermatt took quite a ride in 2005 when he went down with a collapsing pillar. The best collection of pics I could find are in this pdf: http://www.bergundsteigen.at/...20saeule%20ab%29.pdf As he writes, it was a 25 meter fall with 30 tons of ice. Landed in the snow and was practically uninjured. Yeah, I believe those pics were in Alpinist #14 also.
Yes that was definitely in Alpinist. Not sure which issue. Crazy shit. And to walk away...
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onarunning
Sep 26, 2009, 7:02 PM
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angry wrote: There is a story where one came loose on the late Alex Lowe. He rode the pillar to the ground like a surfboard and jumped off when the moment was right. He'd probably have died if he'd placed a screw (he probably didn't even have a rope with him either).
Jon Krakauer wrote about the scene I think you're talking about in a forward in Jennifer Lowe-Anker's book about Alex. According to Krakauer, he was roped up, being belayed by Jack Tackle. He was out on a dagger, decided to hammer in an ice hook, and the whole thing broke off while he was hammering. Alex and the dagger dropped 35 feet to a ledge. The dagger exploded and Alex landed on his feet.
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Alpine07
Oct 1, 2009, 2:32 AM
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Wowzer. Great video all around. Thanks for posting!
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