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sungam
Oct 14, 2009, 3:46 PM
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I'm hoping someone can help me... When I pull on a small/hard hold with my right arm it feels fine, until I let go. I've had times when it hurts around the knuckles when I let go etc. but this is way different. I let go of the hold and it's fine, then a few seconds later the muscle tenses up as if grabbing something and it kinda aches a little. It comes on gradually then goes away gradually. Lasts a total of around 2 seconds. It doesn't feel like a tendon issue, I just feel it in the muscle. It is sometimes accompanied by an immediate pain, but this seems to go away when I'm warmed up. I figured it was a pulled muscle or some crap, but it's been hanging around for a few weeks no, including a 4 and a 3 day rest period.
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dolphja
Oct 14, 2009, 5:05 PM
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sounds like you have a classic case of tendinitis. being a rock climber this will afflict you more often than the typical couch potato. the best advice i can give is to increase your intake of vitamin C & E and get a Nitric Oxide (NO) supplement. you'll probably have to take it easy for a while until your tendons recover from the strain and inflammation. the pain you are probably feeling is in your forearms where you tendons begin. sounds like you've strained these tendons and the muscle tissues surrounding them. most climbers have had to deal with this issue at one time or another.
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sungam
Oct 14, 2009, 5:17 PM
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Huh, I guess so. It feels different from tendon issues I've had in the past, though. Nitric oxide helps with tendon issues? That stuff keeps sounding better and better...
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subantz
Oct 14, 2009, 7:16 PM
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Stop gripping so hard. My recomendation, Take a week off. By this I mean no more dirty mags and lotion fights. Give you forearms a break.
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subantz
Oct 15, 2009, 6:29 AM
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On amore serious not Sungam. If it is Tendonitis Which I have had battles with. You would feel it more in your elbows. Either inside of elbow or inside. Mine seems to pop up on the outside of my elbows between the round knoby bone in the soft tissue. Ohhh how I hate that feeling. I get a wierd sersation in my arm if a try to hard on a climb and do not stretch my forearms before climbing. Mainly hours later from a deep pump. It sucks so bad it bothers me while I am trying to fall asleep and keeps me awake because, well I dont know why its just fruckin annoying. Thus pissing me off. Then making getting to sleep difficult because my forearms feel funky. Try to make your woman rub it out for you. AKA message it and see if it relaxes the muscle.
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sungam
Oct 15, 2009, 1:43 PM
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Yeah, I usually feel it in the elbows previously. I was bouldering on my woody just now and the sensation isn't leaving. It hurts kinda bad, so I'm gunna rest it. Sticking with easier problems and that.
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subantz
Oct 15, 2009, 5:46 PM
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OK refer back to my first post. I told ya to leave little woody alone. Your going to wear a hole in in.
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Trixie
Oct 15, 2009, 8:07 PM
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Hi sungam, sorry to hear you've got a problem with your arm. Your best bet is to see your GP first and that will give you a better idea of what you should and shouldn't do. There are a whole bunch of possibilities and you don't want to make it worse or permanent. If you get told to rest it, you could always do what I'm doing and get a regular workout in a gymn to keep you fit - I feel stapled to the cycling machine at Ratho. I'm also doing a bit of one-armed climbing, but sticking to easier routes so I don't damage my good arm as well. It's really helping my technique (what there is of it) and my balance. Between the two of us we have one set of functioning arms. I sometimes wonder how many active climbers you'd need to put together to end up with one fully fit and healthy climber. Good luck and keep me posted on your progress. Trixie
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sungam
Oct 15, 2009, 8:42 PM
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Well it's certainly not as bad as yours, and I can climb on jugs easily enough and I moved all the jugs to one side so now I can just do laps for stamina.
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Trixie
Oct 19, 2009, 8:27 PM
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Don't forget that even though it isn't hurting when you do something, it doesn't mean that it isn't causing further damage or slowing the healing process. I was told specifically that I could do "grippy" things to try to keep my muscles active as long as they weren't weight bearing and mild pain was OK, but more severe pain was a no-no. This might not hold true for what you've done to yourself, so be cautious. I was climbing at Ratho last week and gave myself a few scares when my balance let me down and I automatically reached out with my left hand to grab a hold - ouch. Having said that, I was more than pleased that I managed a tiny overhang one handed by bridging in a corner and swearing alot Hubby the belay slave was also swearing, but for totally different reasons. Trixie
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bbowers
Oct 21, 2009, 2:22 AM
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When you pull/crimp hard on something does it hurt more if you let go quickly? The way mine works is if I pull down hard and let the pressure off very slowly there is little to no pain, if I pull off hard it hurts like hell for a second or two in my forearm... similar? or no...
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Trixie
Oct 27, 2009, 2:17 AM
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Any improvement or diagnosis yet? Trixie
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sungam
Oct 27, 2009, 8:34 AM
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Well it's feeling much better. I've been warming it up and stratching it and it's almost feeling back to normal. I'm gunna start to ease back in later this week.
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Myxomatosis
Oct 27, 2009, 6:54 PM
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Start on easy stuff and don't worry about doing any training or high volume of stressful moves. Then give few more days rest just to be sure it's gone. :)
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sungam
Oct 27, 2009, 7:05 PM
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Myxomatosis wrote: Start on easy stuff and don't worry about doing any training or high volume of stressful moves. Then give few more days rest just to be sure it's gone. :) That's the plan. I moved all the jugs to one side of the wall so I can take my time and just do a few laps on them every couple of days.
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karmiclimber
Oct 27, 2009, 7:20 PM
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Hey, a little advice from someone whose forearms, wrists, shoulders, hands, ETC are very angry after 9 years of climbing...topical arnica cream...it really works. Oh and I take 1000 mg of MSM every day. Both of those things seem to really help my tendinitis and carpal tunnel. Best of luck hon. Oh and if you can splurge on a massage, even better...it will help get the blood flowing in all the right places.
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sungam
Oct 27, 2009, 7:26 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: Hey, a little advice from someone whose forearms, wrists, shoulders, hands, ETC are very angry after 9 years of climbing...topical arnica cream...it really works. Oh and I take 1000 mg of MSM every day. Both of those things seem to really help my tendinitis and carpal tunnel. Best of luck hon. Oh and if you can splurge on a massage, even better...it will help get the blood flowing in all the right places. ohhh I love arnica. What's MSM though?
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karmiclimber
Oct 27, 2009, 7:38 PM
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MSM stands for Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane. Sounds lovely, eh? I started taking it for my hair six months ago because I am NOT vain. Okay, I'm totally vain...it helps your hair grow longer faster. What I did not know at the time is that it is essential to joint health...and I have seen a drastic improvement in my joints. Like with all vitamins and herbals...you have to use it for a while to see the improvement, so don't expect an overnight miracle. But once it kicks in, it truly helps.
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sungam
Oct 27, 2009, 7:40 PM
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Hmmm, I'll have a looksie.
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laurichj
Oct 27, 2009, 8:20 PM
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karmiclimber wrote: MSM stands for Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane. Sounds lovely, eh? I started taking it for my hair six months ago because I am NOT vain. Okay, I'm totally vain...it helps your hair grow longer faster. What I did not know at the time is that it is essential to joint health...and I have seen a drastic improvement in my joints. Like with all vitamins and herbals...you have to use it for a while to see the improvement, so don't expect an overnight miracle. But once it kicks in, it truly helps. I use Glucosamine with MSM for a bad ankle. Glucosamine is supposedly used in the repair and building of cartilage. Works wonders after it kicks in.
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sungam
Oct 27, 2009, 8:23 PM
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I use glucosamine with condroitin which seems to reduce that post-crimp knuckle pain and the ache in the knees after a long descent.
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karmiclimber
Oct 27, 2009, 10:32 PM
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Ill have to give that a try. You know you're a rockclimber when you are 28 years old, see a commercial for "elations" and think that stuff sounds great.
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