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sungam


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Without doing a search can anyone tell me who has ever been awarded an Olympic gold medal from the Olympic committee for climbing, and what for?


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Wasn't there a gymnastic event of rope climbing but stopped in the 30's or 40's? I couldn't tell you you who got a gold though.


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Wasn't there a gymnastic event of rope climbing but stopped in the 30's or 40's? I couldn't tell you you who got a gold though.
I believe you're correct, but I'm talking about rock, ice, or mountain climbing.


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i did some looking on this a few years back and didn't find any information on climbing ever being an event in the olympics. that'd be pretty cool if the IOC allowed rock climbing in the summer games and ice during the winter games


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i did some looking on this a few years back and didn't find any information on climbing ever being an event in the olympics. that'd be pretty cool if the IOC allowed rock climbing in the summer games and ice during the winter games
Well let's not turn this into another thread on how cool/stupid climbing in the Olympics would be, you are correct on one point - climbing was never in the Olympics.

Never the less the Olympic committee did indeed award a gold medal/gold medals for climbing, but only once. It was not for performance during the Olympics. But keep guessing...


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Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.


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olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.


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sungam wrote:
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i did some looking on this a few years back and didn't find any information on climbing ever being an event in the olympics. that'd be pretty cool if the IOC allowed rock climbing in the summer games and ice during the winter games
Well let's not turn this into another thread on how cool/stupid climbing in the Olympics would be, you are correct on one point - climbing was never in the Olympics.

Never the less the Olympic committee did indeed award a gold medal/gold medals for climbing, but only once. It was not for performance during the Olympics. But keep guessing...

was it either your mom or dad? can't remember which one participated.


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I think they stopped rope climbing in the early 60's if I remember correctly. I had seen something about it on J.Gills web site a while back.
www.johngill.net website here If no clicky someone fix for me please. I cant ever seem to get it right.


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sungam wrote:
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Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

that's a pretty interesting read! i'll let everyone else find it since i didn't know the answer off hand.


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dolphja wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

that's a pretty interesting read! i'll let everyone else find it since i didn't know the answer off hand.
Yeah, I thought it was pretty neat stuff.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
sungam wrote:
dolphja wrote:
i did some looking on this a few years back and didn't find any information on climbing ever being an event in the olympics. that'd be pretty cool if the IOC allowed rock climbing in the summer games and ice during the winter games
Well let's not turn this into another thread on how cool/stupid climbing in the Olympics would be, you are correct on one point - climbing was never in the Olympics.

Never the less the Olympic committee did indeed award a gold medal/gold medals for climbing, but only once. It was not for performance during the Olympics. But keep guessing...

was it either your mom or dad? can't remember which one participated.
It was my dad that participated, but that was for the 400m hurdles, not for climbing.
Alas, he never won a medal, but he did make the semi's in both Munich and Mexico City.


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I think they stopped rope climbing in the early 60's if I remember correctly. I had seen something about it on J.Gills web site a while back.
http://www.johngill.net website here If no clicky someone fix for me please. I cant ever seem to get it right.


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Nikos Andriakopoulos in 1896

edit: oops, sorry, didn't see the "mountain" clarification.


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
Nikos Andriakopoulos in 1896

edit: oops, sorry, didn't see the "mountain" clarification.
That is correct, we're not talking about rope climbing. Also, I said no searching beeeotch!


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sungam wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
Nikos Andriakopoulos in 1896

edit: oops, sorry, didn't see the "mountain" clarification.
That is correct, we're not talking about rope climbing. Also, I said no searching beeeotch!

Laugh


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sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?


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petsfed wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?
Inkorekt. Hitler did not have the authority to award an Olympic medal - that right is reserved to the Olympic committee. Still very close to the answer, though.


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Michael Phelps, 2008...
For climbing the figurative "Eiger" and winning so much gold it was sickening...
The IOC needed more publicity, and since he is bigger then they are, they decided to give him a medal for getting medals (and summiting this mountain I speak of...figuratively)


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sungam wrote:
petsfed wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?
Inkorekt. Hitler did not have the authority to award an Olympic medal - that right is reserved to the Olympic committee. Still very close to the answer, though.

Still haven't snuck a peek at the answer but I know the first successful ascent of the Eiger (N Face) was in 38 and the Berlin Olympics proceeded that by 2 years (of course we didn't boycott those - ever hear of Jesse Owens?). So I'm trying to come up with some noteworthy climb taht would have happned just before the 36 Olympics. All I can remember is Cassin stuff - but he was Italian. Merckl for something? Bauer - when was that Himalayan stuff happening? But those weren't successful. Going to peek soon.


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I was sure olderic was going to remember the day it happened. Wink


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olderic wrote:
sungam wrote:
petsfed wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?
Inkorekt. Hitler did not have the authority to award an Olympic medal - that right is reserved to the Olympic committee. Still very close to the answer, though.

Still haven't snuck a peek at the answer but I know the first successful ascent of the Eiger (N Face) was in 38 and the Berlin Olympics proceeded that by 2 years (of course we didn't boycott those - ever hear of Jesse Owens?). So I'm trying to come up with some noteworthy climb taht would have happned just before the 36 Olympics. All I can remember is Cassin stuff - but he was Italian. Merckl for something? Bauer - when was that Himalayan stuff happening? But those weren't successful. Going to peek soon.
Just to clarify, I was saying close to the right climb. The '38 Olympics had about zilch to do with it - and hitler was not a political leader at this point, though you have the right nationality.


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sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
sungam wrote:
petsfed wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?
Inkorekt. Hitler did not have the authority to award an Olympic medal - that right is reserved to the Olympic committee. Still very close to the answer, though.

Still haven't snuck a peek at the answer but I know the first successful ascent of the Eiger (N Face) was in 38 and the Berlin Olympics proceeded that by 2 years (of course we didn't boycott those - ever hear of Jesse Owens?). So I'm trying to come up with some noteworthy climb taht would have happned just before the 36 Olympics. All I can remember is Cassin stuff - but he was Italian. Merckl for something? Bauer - when was that Himalayan stuff happening? But those weren't successful. Going to peek soon.
Just to clarify, I was saying close to the right climb. The '38 Olympics had about zilch to do with it - and hitler was not a political leader at this point, though you have the right nationality.

'36 Olympics (not '38). So we are talking about the medal being awarded at a point in time when Hitler was NOT a political leader (~1932-1945)? But the climb was "close" to the N Face of the Eiger? That seems inconsistent but possible - what does "close" mean - geographically? chronologically? Capturing the public's attention? Was this medal award related to ANY particular Olmpics?


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olderic wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
sungam wrote:
petsfed wrote:
sungam wrote:
olderic wrote:
Probably Hitler used this as a propaganda mechanism to reward some alpine achievement - N face of the Eiger possibly.
Very, VERY close.

Heinrich Harrer and company, for the first ascent of the Eiger Nordwand in 1938. Harrer mentions in the White Spider that he considered meeting Hitler to be no different than meeting any other head of state.

Didn't the US and UK (amongst others) boycott that one?
Inkorekt. Hitler did not have the authority to award an Olympic medal - that right is reserved to the Olympic committee. Still very close to the answer, though.

Still haven't snuck a peek at the answer but I know the first successful ascent of the Eiger (N Face) was in 38 and the Berlin Olympics proceeded that by 2 years (of course we didn't boycott those - ever hear of Jesse Owens?). So I'm trying to come up with some noteworthy climb taht would have happned just before the 36 Olympics. All I can remember is Cassin stuff - but he was Italian. Merckl for something? Bauer - when was that Himalayan stuff happening? But those weren't successful. Going to peek soon.
Just to clarify, I was saying close to the right climb. The '38 Olympics had about zilch to do with it - and hitler was not a political leader at this point, though you have the right nationality.

'36 Olympics (not '38). So we are talking about the medal being awarded at a point in time when Hitler was NOT a political leader (~1932-1945)? But the climb was "close" to the N Face of the Eiger? That seems inconsistent but possible - what does "close" mean - geographically? chronologically? Capturing the public's attention? Was this medal award related to ANY particular Olmpics?
heheh, too many hints!
Hitler was NOT a political leader at the time, and there was no Olympics the year of the ascent. The climb in questions is "close" to the N face of the Eiger sort-of geographically (it's in the same range), but more... well, in that range there are a few mountains which are known internationally.


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I have to apologize, I'm now receiving mixed information now. Apparently there was more then one time that the Olympic gold medal was awarded for Alpinism. There have been 25 awards made, and none of them have been guessed yet.

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