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Rudmin
Nov 4, 2009, 10:54 PM
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Brand new OR down jacket arrived two days ago, and I just came home to feathers everywhere.
The good news is that Outdoor Research said they would still cover it under their infinite guarantee.
Anyone else lose some pricey gear to curious K9s?
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lena_chita
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Nov 4, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Wow, nice that OR would replace it.
I can see why a dog might be interested. My down jacket smells like a combination of woodsmoke and bedraggled chicken.
K9s are not part of the family, but my friend had a dog pee on her tent once... yuck!
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ShibbyShane
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Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool.
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ShibbyShane
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Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach. 
That too. 
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evanwish
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wow OR is AMAZING!
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code08
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This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair.
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hafilax
Nov 5, 2009, 2:01 AM
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code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image]
Would it be cruel to detooth a dog?
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angry
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code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image]
I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see.
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rhythm164
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Ouch, that sucks. Never lost gear, but my dog chewed the my "Dog Training for Dummies" book when he was a pup...
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reno
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Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach.
Ed Zachary.
Easy to blame the dog. Harder to admit "I fucked up."
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curt
Nov 5, 2009, 3:59 AM
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reno wrote: Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach. Ed Zachary. Easy to blame the dog. Harder to admit "I fucked up."
In addition, punishing the dog after the fact (i.e., unless you actually catch him in the act) will serve absolutely no purpose--because the dog will not connect the punishment to his earlier action.
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reno
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curt wrote: reno wrote: Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach. Ed Zachary. Easy to blame the dog. Harder to admit "I fucked up." In addition, punishing the dog after the fact (i.e., unless you actually catch him in the act) will serve absolutely no purpose--because the dog will not connect the punishment to his earlier action. Curt
Absolutely 100% correct.
If the punishment/correction doesn't happen withing a second of the bad behavior, to the dog it has no connection at all. This is something that many dog owners don't understand at all.
Very, very wise statement, Curt. Kudos for bringing it up.
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acorneau
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angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see.
Happened to me about 8 or 9 years ago. Cat pissed on my gym bag.
The few nickels and pennies and the pair of nail clippers I had in the bottom were corroded. The harness was a loss. Luckily it was getting close to retirement anyway and I was able to wash out the shoes without too much problem.
Still, I'd rather not go through that again. 
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ShibbyShane
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reno wrote: curt wrote: reno wrote: Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach. Ed Zachary. Easy to blame the dog. Harder to admit "I fucked up." In addition, punishing the dog after the fact (i.e., unless you actually catch him in the act) will serve absolutely no purpose--because the dog will not connect the punishment to his earlier action. Curt Absolutely 100% correct. If the punishment/correction doesn't happen withing a second of the bad behavior, to the dog it has no connection at all. This is something that many dog owners don't understand at all. Very, very wise statement, Curt. Kudos for bringing it up.
Yes yes, you're both correct. I'm guilty of thinking that such comments go without saying. Guess we all know what happens when you ASSume, eh?
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acorneau wrote: angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see. Happened to me about 8 or 9 years ago. Cat pissed on my gym bag. The few nickels and pennies and the pair of nail clippers I had in the bottom were corroded. The harness was a loss. Luckily it was getting close to retirement anyway and I was able to wash out the shoes without too much problem. Still, I'd rather not go through that again.
It's true. While my cat has never peed on my gear she seems to really like doing her business on my room mates clothes 
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My little jack russell pup is always going after my fleece and hard shell. I understand the hard shell I keep treats in the pockets, but I don't understand her fascination with my fleece there are no pockets and doesn't really smell to me. With the fleece its so bad she will cry if she sees it and can't chew on it, I'm afraid as she gets bigger it will succumb to the teeth. if it wasn't my fave I would give it to her. I've found most bad dog behavior is the humans fault. Obedience class is all about training you and not your dog.
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curt wrote: reno wrote: Basta916 wrote: ShibbyShane wrote: Damn, hope you punished that dog a bit. Not cool. Hope that owner learned not to leave fun new toys within easy reach. Ed Zachary. Easy to blame the dog. Harder to admit "I fucked up." In addition, punishing the dog after the fact (i.e., unless you actually catch him in the act) will serve absolutely no purpose--because the dog will not connect the punishment to his earlier action. Curt
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dynosore
Nov 10, 2009, 1:37 PM
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Never any climbing gear, but...when my Kuvasz male was a pup he ate my leather jacket, then 2 days later bit thru my contact case, destroying a very expensive toric lens. Total bill around 500$. As Curt said, I didn't punish him because I didn't catch him. He grew up to be a wonderful dog, man I miss him
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angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see.
Only boy cats do this. They are marking their territory.
Funny story: Before Tiff and I were married I was staying over her place and left my bag in the hallway. Her roommates cat then proceeded to think that my bag and the clothes inside were his "territory." Got up the next morning and got dressed. We were helping a friend move that day. We get done for the day and i start to wonder what that smell is that i have been smelling ALL day (not to mention the yellow stains on my shirt). Upon closer inspection, I realize that it's cat pee and I have been wearing it all day.
I threw out the shirt, but wanted to save the bag. After multiple washes with soap and vinegar, I ended up tossing the bag, too. That's the last time I ever left anything in the hall.
Josh
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blueeyedclimber wrote: angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see. Only boy cats do this. They are marking their territory. Funny story: Before Tiff and I were married I was staying over her place and left my bag in the hallway. Her roommates cat then proceeded to think that my bag and the clothes inside were his "territory." Got up the next morning and got dressed. We were helping a friend move that day. We get done for the day and i start to wonder what that smell is that i have been smelling ALL day (not to mention the yellow stains on my shirt). Upon closer inspection, I realize that it's cat pee and I have been wearing it all day. I threw out the shirt, but wanted to save the bag. After multiple washes with soap and vinegar, I ended up tossing the bag, too. That's the last time I ever left anything in the hall. Josh
We have a male cat the has no territorial issues. In fact, he seems to love it when he gets to stay at someone else's house, especially if they also have pets that he can be friends with.
I've been told that spraying only becomes a problem if you don't neuter a cat before sexual maturity, so it's possible that I have only know male cats that have been fixed at the appropriate time.
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blueeyedclimber wrote: angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see. Only boy cats do this. They are marking their territory. Funny story: Before Tiff and I were married I was staying over her place and left my bag in the hallway. Her roommates cat then proceeded to think that my bag and the clothes inside were his "territory." Got up the next morning and got dressed. We were helping a friend move that day. We get done for the day and i start to wonder what that smell is that i have been smelling ALL day (not to mention the yellow stains on my shirt). Upon closer inspection, I realize that it's cat pee and I have been wearing it all day. I threw out the shirt, but wanted to save the bag. After multiple washes with soap and vinegar, I ended up tossing the bag, too. That's the last time I ever left anything in the hall. Josh
Actually, our female cat pees quite a bit inside; it's fucking obnoxious. We keep her in the basement at night, and presumably the previous owners had a dog or cat that peed in the corners quite a bit; our cat took this as being all right to do the same, and I had to completely tear up the carpet, repaint and seal the floor, and redo the walls to get the smell out. And she still pees down there every once in a while; it's just easier to clean up now.
Furthermore, on at least one occasion, she has noticed that we are packing to go on a climbing trip, and out of pure spite for us leaving, has peed ON A CRAG PACK. Cats are vindictive assholes, way more than dogs.
Anyone want a free cat?
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camhead wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see. Only boy cats do this. They are marking their territory. Funny story: Before Tiff and I were married I was staying over her place and left my bag in the hallway. Her roommates cat then proceeded to think that my bag and the clothes inside were his "territory." Got up the next morning and got dressed. We were helping a friend move that day. We get done for the day and i start to wonder what that smell is that i have been smelling ALL day (not to mention the yellow stains on my shirt). Upon closer inspection, I realize that it's cat pee and I have been wearing it all day. I threw out the shirt, but wanted to save the bag. After multiple washes with soap and vinegar, I ended up tossing the bag, too. That's the last time I ever left anything in the hall. Josh Actually, our female cat pees quite a bit inside; it's fucking obnoxious. We keep her in the basement at night, and presumably the previous owners had a dog or cat that peed in the corners quite a bit; our cat took this as being all right to do the same, and I had to completely tear up the carpet, repaint and seal the floor, and redo the walls to get the smell out. And she still pees down there every once in a while; it's just easier to clean up now. Furthermore, on at least one occasion, she has noticed that we are packing to go on a climbing trip, and out of pure spite for us leaving, has peed ON A CRAG PACK. Cats are vindictive assholes, way more than dogs. Anyone want a free cat?
Cats have been known to get out, wander away, and never be seen again. Just sayin'
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Hahah My auntie/uncle cat used to pee on there bed or sofa's if they went away for more than a few days... sometimes even hours.
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blueeyedclimber wrote: angry wrote: code08 wrote: This is why cats are better; all they do is sit on your stuff and make it full of hair. [image]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2681/4076064879_348c45ff5b.jpg[/image] I've only ever heard this one story about a dog messing with gear. Cats seem to piss on climbing gear on a daily basis. Do a search, you'll see. Only boy cats do this. They are marking their territory.
I have a girl cat that did this pretty much constantly over the course of a week. We finally realized it and put a stop to it. Turned out conditions in her litter box weren't quite right for her, so she was seeking out the next best thing, which happened to be a pile of ropes in my closet. (By the way, I was able to get the smell out of a nearby backpack by hanging it out in the sun for a couple weeks.)
A couple other brief stories...
A friend and I were camped atop Shortoff Mt, and left his dog tied up at the camp while we climbed. When we got back, his dog had shredded his sleeping bag.
I got home from the Rendezvous one Saturday night and found that another friend's dog had gotten sick, wandered into my room and diarrhea-ed all over my MH down coat. I pretty much wrote the jacket off, but my fantastic wife cleaned the hell out of it and I still wear it almost daily throughout the winter.
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