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iclimb512s


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Could there ever be a 5.16?? what do you think.(WOW, that would be really hard!)

I think there will be.


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um... who knows? Hey I know go call Ms. Celo on tha tv man, she will know


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mabey someone should climb a 5.15b first


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Yes, I climbed one earlier tonight.



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Actually, pianomahnn, you climbed a 5.15c. I, on the other hand, just climbed a 5.16b.

So there.

Whaddaya think of that?





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Seriously though, I think yes.

It's not that far fetched and I'm not sure how far beyond that we'll go but look at Sharma, how many tries did he really put into Realization? The guy didn't have to work all that hard to get it, otherwise he'd still be trying it. Graham just sent a new prob he claims is harder than Nothing but Sunshine (V14).

These guys are just hitting thier stride, they haven't reached many personal limits yet.


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When the Yosemite Decimal Sytem was developed it was originally setup as a close-ended scale ending at 5.9. 5.9!!!!
What week-end want-to-be can't climb 5.9?!
the only limit to human acheivement is our own lack of faith and determination.

Send it.

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greatgarbanzo


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Statistically speaking... so that someone is able to redpoint a 5.16a he has to onsight a 5.15b first... think about that....


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5.16 is deffinately possible. Ask people like Yvon Chourinard, who is a great climber from back in the 60's and founder of Black Diamond, if he thought there would ever be a 5.13.

Andy


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...and litedawg did quoteth, "What week-end want-to-be can't climb 5.9?! "

In today's fairly safe sport climbing world, I agree that a 5.9 seems like nothing. However, you MUST remember the environment of the era in which the YDS was created. Okay, most climbers can do a 5.9. How many could do it with only the leather boots, weak hemp ropes, and poor protection of forty years ago?
Just watch what you say. In some circumstances, 5.9 can be pretty burley.

***miscellaneous historical fact--- one of Utah's first hard routes was put up by Fred Beckey in Big Cottonwood Canyon in the late 1940s. He did it wearing leather hiking boots, with weak pro. Today it is rated at 5.10c.***


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 5.16 will definetly happen someday, look at what Chris Sharma did for Realization. He basically just climbed on it, no training for the pockets on the route or anything. Just showing up to the crag and trying to send it. Now look at the training regime that Wolfgang Gullich went through to send Action Direct. He spent months on the campus board training for the hard reaches and pockets of Action. I think if somone (Sharma,Caldwell, Graham, Dulac, Andrada, Pou to name a few)found a project that they cant even consider doing yet and starts training for it we should be seeing 15b/15c and 5.16 sooner than we think.


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VERRRRRRYY INTERSETING!


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