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Poll: Which is the best sport climbing quickdraw from BD?
Hotwire 9 / 50%
OZ 1 / 6%
Positron 5 / 28%
Quicksilver 3 / 17%
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SlenderSender13


Nov 18, 2009, 6:50 PM
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Which is the best sport climbing quickdraw from BD?
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PLEASE RESPOND!! And tell me WHY??


kylekienitz


Nov 18, 2009, 6:57 PM
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hmm... someone's a bit pushy.


I like my hotwires because they are the perfect size in my book.


caughtinside


Nov 18, 2009, 7:06 PM
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Their new livewires look like the best thing they offer for sport.

Notchless top biner,

Big fatty easyclip wiregate rope end.

2nd place, positron.


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bennydh


Nov 18, 2009, 7:21 PM
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SlenderSender13 wrote:
PLEASE RESPOND!! And tell me WHY??

Its hard to respond when there are no PETZL options... Yes I read the damn title, but I'm still so confused. Crazy


danull16


Nov 18, 2009, 7:59 PM
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quicksilvers all the way. so solid and you can't tell the different in weight from the hotwires. and they practically clip themselves.


Shintao


Nov 18, 2009, 8:31 PM
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I would have gone with the livewires if you had them up there, but instead I went with the positrons because I don't care for wire gates on the bolt end.

The positrons are a good lower cost keylock biner. I have some draws that are Dynotrons on the Bolt end with Hotwires on the rope end with Petzl dogbones. My favorites by far.


a-e-jones


Nov 18, 2009, 8:56 PM
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SlenderSender13 wrote:
PLEASE RESPOND!! And tell me WHY??

petzl spirit because your another annoying troll

"edit: for spelling


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kriso9tails


Nov 18, 2009, 9:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure that of those options, only the Oz quickdraw has a wire gate on the bolt end. The hotwire is a positron on the bolt end, hotwire on the rope end. The firewire uses a hotwire on both ends of the draw.


ingrahamd


Nov 18, 2009, 9:43 PM
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I have the freewires. Bought them from MEC when I was starting out. I think they're great, my only complaint is cleaning the bolt side with the notch. But for $4-5 cheaper, I'll take a second at the bolt!


Shintao


Nov 18, 2009, 10:22 PM
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You are correct, I was thinking firewire. The hotwires are nice draws. The dogbones are a bit skinny, but IMO the skinny ones arent too bad. Though the bigger the dogbone the better.


lostlazy


Nov 19, 2009, 4:35 AM
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Go with Petzl.


rockandlice


Nov 19, 2009, 9:24 AM
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None of your options provide me the security of lockers on both ends.


kylekienitz


Nov 19, 2009, 9:32 AM
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lostlazy wrote:
Go with Petzl.

spirit straight gate on the bolt end, hotwires on the rope end. <-- best draw combo. imo.


rockandlice


Nov 19, 2009, 9:41 AM
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kylekienitz wrote:
lostlazy wrote:
Go with Petzl.

spirit straight gate on the bolt end, hotwires on the rope end. <-- best draw combo. imo.

on petzl dogbones = +1


pfwein


Nov 19, 2009, 10:16 AM
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rockandlice wrote:
kylekienitz wrote:
lostlazy wrote:
Go with Petzl.

spirit straight gate on the bolt end, hotwires on the rope end. <-- best draw combo. imo.

on petzl dogbones = +1

I like the petzl dogbones EXCEPT I'm not totally happy with their lenghts. They make 3 lenghs: shortest and longest seem relatively worthless (short is way too short; long is long enough so that you may just want to use a shoulder length sling).

That leaves only the medium length sling as a serious candidate for general use. And it's still noticeably longer than most competing dogbones.

It's nice in other respects, just a wee bit longer than I'd like. YMMV and all that.


cleethree


Nov 19, 2009, 11:51 AM
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i'm really happy with my livewires. notchless bolt end, fat draws to grab if needed and super easy clipping with the huge biners and ridges on the rope end biner. it's BD flagship draw, why wouldnt it be the best?


cleethree


Nov 19, 2009, 11:55 AM
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i also really like the color. Cool




irregularpanda


Nov 19, 2009, 12:41 PM
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a-e-jones wrote:
SlenderSender13 wrote:
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petzl spirit because your another annoying troll

"edit: for spelling

Despite the edit, you still managed to spell "you're" wrong.

To the OP, on the bolt end anything keylock, prefereably petzl spirit, rope end Omega Pacific JC Wiregate


Oh wait,they stopped making it.


rockandlice


Nov 19, 2009, 12:43 PM
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pfwein wrote:
rockandlice wrote:
kylekienitz wrote:
lostlazy wrote:
Go with Petzl.

spirit straight gate on the bolt end, hotwires on the rope end. <-- best draw combo. imo.

on petzl dogbones = +1

I like the petzl dogbones EXCEPT I'm not totally happy with their lenghts. They make 3 lenghs: shortest and longest seem relatively worthless (short is way too short; long is long enough so that you may just want to use a shoulder length sling).

That leaves only the medium length sling as a serious candidate for general use. And it's still noticeably longer than most competing dogbones.

It's nice in other respects, just a wee bit longer than I'd like. YMMV and all that.

I have an assortment of all sizes, and they seem fall into place perfectly at the crags I frequent.


gosharks


Nov 19, 2009, 12:44 PM
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danull16 wrote:
quicksilvers all the way. so solid and you can't tell the different in weight from the hotwires. and they practically clip themselves.
The Quicksilvers are some of the worst draws (and biners) that I have ever clipped. The edges on the gates are sharp, and the basket is smaller than what I am comfortable with for a thumb in the biner, right handed, right facing, clip. (Or left/left).


sp00ki


Nov 19, 2009, 2:34 PM
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Why isn't the BD livewire on the list?
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-LiveWire-Quickdraw/BLD0421M.html


rockandlice


Nov 19, 2009, 3:18 PM
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sp00ki wrote:
Why isn't the BD livewire on the list?
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-LiveWire-Quickdraw/BLD0421M.html

Because wire gates suck on the hanger side?


caughtinside


Nov 19, 2009, 3:34 PM
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rockandlice wrote:
sp00ki wrote:
Why isn't the BD livewire on the list?
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-LiveWire-Quickdraw/BLD0421M.html

Because wire gates suck on the hanger side?

The livewire draw has a solid gate on the hanger side. It might be called the dynotron biner? not sure.


rockandlice


Nov 19, 2009, 3:42 PM
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caughtinside wrote:
rockandlice wrote:
sp00ki wrote:
Why isn't the BD livewire on the list?
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-LiveWire-Quickdraw/BLD0421M.html

Because wire gates suck on the hanger side?

The livewire draw has a solid gate on the hanger side. It might be called the dynotron biner? not sure.

Maybe they call it the hotwire draw? I must have confused them.


sp00ki


Nov 19, 2009, 3:42 PM
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rockandlice wrote:
sp00ki wrote:
Why isn't the BD livewire on the list?
http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Black-Diamond-LiveWire-Quickdraw/BLD0421M.html

Because wire gates suck on the hanger side?

Click harder.




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