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Toast_in_the_Machine


Dec 17, 2009, 7:19 AM
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Occasionally when accounts gets the banz hammer, there is no communication on it to people outside of the mod community. I understand there are risks, especially if someone gets banzed for phhysical threats.

However an electronic obit would help. Account name, date of ban (or lenth of time out), and TOS violation.


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Dec 17, 2009, 10:20 AM
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this is purely my opinion and not management or any other mod's. i am of the whack-a-mole school of thought. it's nobody's business but the site's and the person who got banned. it does not concern anyone else, we are not obligated to inform the usership of rc.com. a user gets banned end of story.


jakedatc


Dec 17, 2009, 12:05 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
Occasionally when accounts gets the banz hammer, there is no communication on it to people outside of the mod community. I understand there are risks, especially if someone gets banzed for phhysical threats.

However an electronic obit would help. Account name, date of ban (or lenth of time out), and TOS violation.

Bike forums has a locked thread for this. Admin/mods can post in it with the User name, reasoning and sentence length. Hell some of them are voluntary "please ban me so i can study for finals for 2 weeks"

http://www.bikeforums.net/...-Banned-Users/page12


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Dec 17, 2009, 12:13 PM
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By a factor of at least 300 to 1 spammers and scammers are the beneficiaries of the banz. Would you really like to wade through a list of people with names like Jacob Ngumu or Mrs. Nzima.. The vast majority of banzings are handed out to the nigerian scammers and the viagra spammers.

No, you don't want to have a thread dedicated to all the banzees. We got enough work to do around here as it is, you know like collecting our huge paychecks and enjoying all those executive bathroom facilities, taking the secretary out for a 3 hour lunch etc. What's a mod to do.


dr_feelgood


Dec 17, 2009, 1:15 PM
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Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.


jakedatc


Dec 17, 2009, 2:06 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote:
Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.

thats why they dropped the Blue.. too transparent.


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Dec 17, 2009, 3:13 PM
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philbox wrote:
By a factor of at least 300 to 1 spammers and scammers are the beneficiaries of the banz. Would you really like to wade through a list of people with names like Jacob Ngumu or Mrs. Nzima.. The vast majority of banzings are handed out to the nigerian scammers and the viagra spammers.

No, you don't want to have a thread dedicated to all the banzees.
We got enough work to do around here as it is, you know like collecting our huge paychecks and enjoying all those executive bathroom facilities, taking the secretary out for a 3 hour lunch etc. What's a mod to do.

good lord, i can see it now..............

phil's right, i'm too busy in the staff lounge to be bothered with this.


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Dec 17, 2009, 4:12 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote:
Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.
How are we held accountable to you? (as a general statement)

This is a free site, after all, and I can't think of a single user who has paid to support any of this since Namemedia took over.

Bwwwarrarrroooowwwwllll: I can't figure out why I just said that, but I'm not retracting it either. It's a dick statement, but it's the truth.

We are accountable to the users as much as we need to be. I can see where if a mod were actually paid for this then some transparency would be appreciated, but it is a private site paid for by ads. We could just not banz the spammers - to include CI and Snupes - and let this place become overrun. I think it would solve two problems (1) us not having to list any sort of banzings, and (2) no reason for us to banz anyone.


dr_feelgood


Dec 18, 2009, 1:36 PM
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epoch wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.
How are we held accountable to you? (as a general statement)

This is a free site, after all, and I can't think of a single user who has paid to support any of this since Namemedia took over.

Bwwwarrarrroooowwwwllll: I can't figure out why I just said that, but I'm not retracting it either. It's a dick statement, but it's the truth.

We are accountable to the users as much as we need to be. I can see where if a mod were actually paid for this then some transparency would be appreciated, but it is a private site paid for by ads. We could just not banz the spammers - to include CI and Snupes - and let this place become overrun. I think it would solve two problems (1) us not having to list any sort of banzings, and (2) no reason for us to banz anyone.

The question should not be "Why should I be accountable?", it should be "Why shouldn't I?"


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Jan 9, 2010, 7:55 AM
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jakedatc wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.

thats why they dropped the Blue.. too transparent.

That is not the reason! Laugh


tradrenn


Jan 17, 2010, 10:26 AM
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epoch wrote:
I can't think of a single user who has paid to support any of this since Namemedia took over.

That's because it is impossible, supporting partners "thingy" is still off dude.

V.


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Jan 17, 2010, 6:38 PM
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If you are going to moderate the Whack-a-mole is the superior tool.

The hand wringing that used to go on here was laughable. Remember The PTPP Hand Wringing Contest (at least 2 of the posters in this thread were leaders of the ptpp lynching hehe)... made this site a laughing stock.

Take the post or the poster out behind the barn and shoot it in the head in the dark of night and bury it at the bottom of a lake.

Never EVER explain. The mods identity should be shielded. If a mod makes her identity public she should be fired.

And mods should NEVER participate in any flame or troll thread. You wanna be a mod... man up and BE a mod. You're not one of us barn animals anymore - ya done moved into the farm house. I know you don't like that but that's really tough shit.

I suppose I'll be banzed for bad mouthing mods.

if you must, do it quietly and quickly, don't tell anyone.

And don't apologize.

DMT


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Jan 18, 2010, 7:42 PM
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dingus wrote:
If you are going to moderate the Whack-a-mole is the superior tool.

The hand wringing that used to go on here was laughable. Remember The PTPP Hand Wringing Contest (at least 2 of the posters in this thread were leaders of the ptpp lynching hehe)... made this site a laughing stock.

Take the post or the poster out behind the barn and shoot it in the head in the dark of night and bury it at the bottom of a lake.

Never EVER explain. The mods identity should be shielded. If a mod makes her identity public she should be fired.

And mods should NEVER participate in any flame or troll thread. You wanna be a mod... man up and BE a mod. You're not one of us barn animals anymore - ya done moved into the farm house. I know you don't like that but that's really tough shit.

I suppose I'll be banzed for bad mouthing mods.

if you must, do it quietly and quickly, don't tell anyone.

And don't apologize.

DMT

my sentiments exactly


dr_feelgood


Jan 18, 2010, 7:51 PM
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macherry wrote:
dingus wrote:
If you are going to moderate the Whack-a-mole is the superior tool.

The hand wringing that used to go on here was laughable. Remember The PTPP Hand Wringing Contest (at least 2 of the posters in this thread were leaders of the ptpp lynching hehe)... made this site a laughing stock.

Take the post or the poster out behind the barn and shoot it in the head in the dark of night and bury it at the bottom of a lake.

Never EVER explain. The mods identity should be shielded. If a mod makes her identity public she should be fired.

And mods should NEVER participate in any flame or troll thread. You wanna be a mod... man up and BE a mod. You're not one of us barn animals anymore - ya done moved into the farm house. I know you don't like that but that's really tough shit.

I suppose I'll be banzed for bad mouthing mods.

if you must, do it quietly and quickly, don't tell anyone.

And don't apologize.

DMT

my sentiments exactly

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.


dingus


Jan 19, 2010, 6:07 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote:
macherry wrote:
dingus wrote:
If you are going to moderate the Whack-a-mole is the superior tool.

The hand wringing that used to go on here was laughable. Remember The PTPP Hand Wringing Contest (at least 2 of the posters in this thread were leaders of the ptpp lynching hehe)... made this site a laughing stock.

Take the post or the poster out behind the barn and shoot it in the head in the dark of night and bury it at the bottom of a lake.

Never EVER explain. The mods identity should be shielded. If a mod makes her identity public she should be fired.

And mods should NEVER participate in any flame or troll thread. You wanna be a mod... man up and BE a mod. You're not one of us barn animals anymore - ya done moved into the farm house. I know you don't like that but that's really tough shit.

I suppose I'll be banzed for bad mouthing mods.

if you must, do it quietly and quickly, don't tell anyone.

And don't apologize.

DMT

my sentiments exactly

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Thus it has always been.

DMT


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Jan 25, 2010, 2:28 PM
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epoch wrote:
dr_feelgood wrote:
Oh, we certainly don't want any transparency or accountability. Really. You guys are doing a smash up job.
How are we held accountable to you? (as a general statement)

Somebody should be held accountable for approving that avatard of yours.


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