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lukebrown607
Jan 29, 2010, 2:49 AM
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I bought the Reverso3, but i like the ATC guide better. What do you guys think?
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acorneau
Jan 29, 2010, 3:04 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote: I bought the Reverso3, but i like the ATC guide better. What do you guys think?
I think my girlfriend is hot, chicken isn't as tasty as beef, and that you are a silly man.
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irregularpanda
Jan 29, 2010, 3:32 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote: I bought the Reverso3, but i like the ATC guide better. What do you guys think?
I think that yellow is a nice color, and I think my truck needs a camper shell, but not as badly as I need a real job.
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meanandugly
Jan 29, 2010, 3:34 AM
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I agree tha beef is tastier, but chicken is easier flavoured. Silly man yes. Don't know about your girlfriend...send a pic.
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 3:35 AM
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I’m disappointed with both. I hate this new trend of putting teeth on belay devices and wish they would come out with an option that didn’t have them in a reverso type device.
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lukebrown607
Jan 29, 2010, 3:40 AM
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I have found the teeth to make no difference. the anodizing on the reverso3 makes the device extra slippery, especially on newer ropes. I do notice that when belaying a second, the BD version and the reverso when clipped in to the anchor are oriented perpendicular to each other, not sure which is better, since I only have the one. I prefer chicken ramen noodles over the beef.
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moose_droppings
Jan 29, 2010, 3:40 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote: I bought the Reverso3, but i like the ATC guide better. What do you guys think?
I think you ought to send the Reverso3 to me.
Problem solved.
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lukebrown607
Jan 29, 2010, 3:44 AM
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sounds good, one condition, you send me a brand new BD ATC Guide. I'll send you my used reverso
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 3:50 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote: I have found the teeth to make no difference. the anodizing on the reverso3 makes the device extra slippery, especially on newer ropes. I do notice that when belaying a second, the BD version and the reverso when clipped in to the anchor are oriented perpendicular to each other, not sure which is better, since I only have the one. I prefer chicken ramen noodles over the beef.
My wife is way too light, I have to feed the rope when I lower her or other lighter people. I have purposely avoided devices with teeth for this reason, it’s completely unnecessary unless you have no grip strength or a limp wrist. I even went out and bought the fattest locker I could find to make it run smoother and it helped but not enough. If you want or need teeth fine I just wish there was an option without.
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scottek67
Jan 29, 2010, 3:55 AM
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why not turn the device around?
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 3:56 AM
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I used the original reverso for years and liked the orientation and decided on the ATC guide because of that.
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 3:57 AM
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scottek67 wrote: why not turn the device around?
Is that a serious question?
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lukebrown607
Jan 29, 2010, 4:05 AM
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why don't i just turn around, or just turn my head, and leave the device as is, or bring a mirror, and look only at my belay device through that
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 4:20 AM
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Oh I see what you’re saying. Yeah I could do that for regular belay but I also don’t like the amount of friction in the autoblock mode. Maybe I’m just bitching about something that doesn’t matter but personally I really don’t like it and would rather think about other things like eating or enjoying the scenery then fighting with my belay device when I’m three four pitches up. I’ve only used it in autoblock mode a couple of times so far and really don’t like the resistance compared to my original reverso but that’s too worn out now and I don’t think they sell them anymore. Maybe I’ll just make my own (don’t tell my wife I just said that, I told her today I wanted to make my own skis, she’s ok with the craziness so far but I don’t want to push it).
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rschap
Jan 29, 2010, 4:21 AM
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lukebrown607 wrote: why don't i just turn around, or just turn my head, and leave the device as is, or bring a mirror, and look only at my belay device through that
I think he was referring to my comment about lowering and too much friction with the teeth.
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shockabuku
Jan 29, 2010, 10:56 AM
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What about the Kong Ghost or Trango B-52?
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granite_grrl
Jan 29, 2010, 1:44 PM
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rschap wrote: lukebrown607 wrote: I have found the teeth to make no difference. the anodizing on the reverso3 makes the device extra slippery, especially on newer ropes. I do notice that when belaying a second, the BD version and the reverso when clipped in to the anchor are oriented perpendicular to each other, not sure which is better, since I only have the one. I prefer chicken ramen noodles over the beef. My wife is way too light, I have to feed the rope when I lower her or other lighter people. I have purposely avoided devices with teeth for this reason, it’s completely unnecessary unless you have no grip strength or a limp wrist. I even went out and bought the fattest locker I could find to make it run smoother and it helped but not enough. If you want or need teeth fine I just wish there was an option without.
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granite_grrl
Jan 29, 2010, 1:47 PM
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rschap wrote: Oh I see what you’re saying. Yeah I could do that for regular belay but I also don’t like the amount of friction in the autoblock mode. Maybe I’m just bitching about something that doesn’t matter but personally I really don’t like it and would rather think about other things like eating or enjoying the scenery then fighting with my belay device when I’m three four pitches up. I’ve only used it in autoblock mode a couple of times so far and really don’t like the resistance compared to my original reverso but that’s too worn out now and I don’t think they sell them anymore. Maybe I’ll just make my own (don’t tell my wife I just said that, I told her today I wanted to make my own skis, she’s ok with the craziness so far but I don’t want to push it).
Perhaps just give the Guide to your wife and learn to use a munter.
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dr_feelgood
Jan 29, 2010, 2:46 PM
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irregularpanda wrote: lukebrown607 wrote: I bought the Reverso3, but i like the ATC guide better. What do you guys think? I think that yellow is a nice color, and I think my truck needs a camper shell, but not as badly as I need a real job.
I think that I love my camper shell on my truck, and if you get one, you won't need a real job because you won't need to pay rent as often. I think yellow is a colour for nancy boys and small children.
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jakedatc
Jan 29, 2010, 3:37 PM
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mrtristan
Jan 29, 2010, 4:15 PM
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I've used both and I think each has its own merits. When belaying the second in autoblock mode, you can clip a Petzl Spirit biner through the hole on the bottom of the Reverso if you need to and use that to lower out/give slack. The hole is there on the BD, but you have to tie cord to it to get a biner through.
It is hard to belay up two seconds using fat ropes with the Reverso. I've heard it's easier with the BD but haven't used it for that purpose so I don't know.
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coolcat83
Jan 29, 2010, 4:39 PM
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mrtristan wrote: It is hard to belay up two seconds using fat ropes with the Reverso. I've heard it's easier with the BD but haven't used it for that purpose so I don't know.
yes, and it's easy enough to just loops a skinny sling or cord through the hole in the guide. if yu are lowering your second that much get a cinch (my favorite singe rope belay device after the guide) or a grigri
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