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johnwesely
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I always have climbing tape with me. First aid right there.
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sacagueah
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onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. 
u didn't see my FA kit? The climbing tape was dead-center in my pic. wrap the wound up and climb on! 
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shoo
Mar 3, 2010, 7:45 AM
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onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me.
Gotta say that I don't really think that first aid kits are all that useful for most craggers. A SAM splint is really the only first-aid specific item I carry with me. I already have a knife, tape, and ibuprofen. Everything else i can improvise. Bring an epi-pen if you're allergic to bee stings or whatnot. Some chemical hand warmers for hypothermia for cold and wet trips.
Other than that, most items available in first aid kits would only really help for nuisances (i.e. if it can be fixed with a band-aid, you'd be fine without it for a day) or situations which are far too complicated to handle in the field anyway (i.e. you're dead or need to be rescued, regardless of what's in your kit).
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boymeetsrock
Mar 3, 2010, 7:59 AM
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WFR is a great resource to have under your belt. Invaluable really. Go for it!
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Arrogant_Bastard
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onrockandice wrote: I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!!
....and here comes the 'mandatory requirements'. Judging by your healthy collection I suppose everyone should carry two belay devices at all times too?
onrockandice wrote: I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without.
Like what?
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swoopee
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onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me.
Chalk and tape is what I use for first aid. 
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shimanilami
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Standard first aid kits (e.g. band-aids, tylenol/advil, gloves, antiseptic cream, etc.) might alleviate some discomfort, but aren't going to do much for serious injuries. Frankly, if you are concerned about a little discomfort, then you shouldn't be climbing (at least, not outside a gym).
My first aid kit - which only comes along on walls and backcountry trips - includes syringes and hypodermic needles, morphine, lydocaine, sutures, razor blades, a splint, duct tape, benedryl, a notebook, and a few other things you'd be more likely to find in an emergency room than in your local CVS. You're only going to crack that thing open if you need it, but if you need it, then God help you.
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Lazlo
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cracklover
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shimanilami wrote: Standard first aid kits (e.g. band-aids, tylenol/advil, gloves, antiseptic cream, etc.) might alleviate some discomfort, but aren't going to do much for serious injuries. Frankly, if you are concerned about a little discomfort, then you shouldn't be climbing (at least, not outside a gym).
I've never carried a first aid kit. Always had more or less the same opinion as you. That changed recently.
On the third day of our honeymoon in Kalymnos, we had an accident that caused a bunch of minor abrasions and one very deep cut on my wife's finger. Fortunately, it didn't sever any tendons. Thanks to the help of another climber who *did* have a simple but adequate first aid kit, we got the finger cleaned out, disinfected, dressed, and splinted. That saved the trip, avoided infection, the finger healed beautifully, and we wound up getting more climbing in after a few days of healing, plus creating a more solid splint out of found materials.
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onrockandice
Mar 3, 2010, 11:48 AM
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: Like what?
I take 3 kids climbing and questions like "What?" are disturbing.
Last summer while slab climbing on knob granite I blew a clip and turned my thumb into a flapper and really sausaged the side of my hand.
I put some bactroban on then wrapped a bit of gauze then climbing taped it and was able to climb the other 6 pitches and have a generally good day.
I guess it's just something I picked up a while ago. It's just good habit to have a med-kit.
But really I have not ever needed it and I hope I will not.
To answer your question on belay devices my wife and I climb together and belay 3 kids. So we need doubles on a lot of stuff.
I didn't mean to sound like I was some rule enforcer either. Certainly not my MO. I'm really not experienced enough to be telling anyone here what to do at all. I try to listen more than speak to be sure.
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dr_feelgood
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onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me.
I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill.
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Arrogant_Bastard
Mar 3, 2010, 9:07 PM
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dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill.
Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit
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sacagueah
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit
Don't forget the catheter :P
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Arrogant_Bastard
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sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P
That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man.
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man.
It's:
Show some respect.
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airscape
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It's Mcgyver if you have a leatherman and Macgyver if you have a swiss army knife.
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man.
Good solution for an impacted stool too.
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airscape
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kachoong wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man. Good solution for an impacted stool too.
 Are you confusing rock climbing with prison?
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suprasoup wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man. It's: Show some respect.
I make my pipebombs with prefabricated charges and grade D gun powder. Twice as fast and a third the cost. It's McGyver.
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caughtinside
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Arrogant_Bastard wrote: suprasoup wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man. It's: [image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/MacGyver_intro.jpg[/image] Show some respect. I make my pipebombs with prefabricated charges and grade D gun powder. Twice as fast and a third the cost. It's McGyver.
you guys are both rong. It's MacGruber!
http://www.hulu.com/...night-live-macgruber
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Arrogant_Bastard
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caughtinside wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: suprasoup wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man. It's: [image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/MacGyver_intro.jpg[/image] Show some respect. I make my pipebombs with prefabricated charges and grade D gun powder. Twice as fast and a third the cost. It's McGyver. you guys are both rong. It's MacGruber! http://www.hulu.com/...night-live-macgruber
How many time you going to edit this post to get it right?
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Arrogant_Bastard
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two, the answer is two
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Or is the answer...
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Arrogant_Bastard
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caughtinside wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: suprasoup wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: sacagueah wrote: Arrogant_Bastard wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: onrockandice wrote: Is this the PTFTW or did I miss that? I'm surprised most people don't have a first aid kit. I think that should be a mandatory item given our chosen super-kick-@$$-SPORT!!!! I love having that kit and it's come in handy so many times. So far just little things but I know if something bigger happens I'm going to be able to handle it better than without. I have a chance to get my WFR this month but it's going to be $550 and right now that's BIG BANK for me. I've got an epi-pen and benadryl, some percocets, a few paper towels that double as shit paper, and climbing tape. Anything else is overkill. Add in a knife with tweezers and you got a kit Don't forget the catheter :P That's why I always carry my stick clip. If you can't McGyver a telescopic pole into a Foley catheter, you ain't no man. It's: [image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/MacGyver_intro.jpg[/image] Show some respect. I make my pipebombs with prefabricated charges and grade D gun powder. Twice as fast and a third the cost. It's McGyver. you guys are both rong. It's MacGruber! http://www.hulu.com/...night-live-macgruber
That was awesome.
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