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majid_sabet

Mar 3, 2010, 5:15 PM
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This an old caving report with a lot ropes, bolts, drilling and rope eating devices attached here and there so take your time while reading this.

http://www.caves.org/...nh/45/ivyaccrpt.html

(This post was edited by majid_sabet on May 3, 2010, 9:15 PM)

jakedatc

Mar 10, 2010, 8:35 PM
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Re: [majid_sabet] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (13 ratings)	Can't Post

majid_sabet wrote:

This an old caving report with a lot ropes, bolts, drilling and rope eating devices attached here and there so take your time while reading this.

http://www.caves.org/...nh/45/ivyaccrpt.html

This is CLIMBING not Caving you fucking ambulance chasing douchebag

boymeetsrock

Mar 10, 2010, 9:45 PM
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Re: [jakedatc] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (1 rating)	Can't Post

Ease up Jake. Did you read the report?

It happened in a cave but the people were using climbing techniques. Also, there is a pretty good incident analysis included.

No need to go off the deep end here...

Adk

Mar 10, 2010, 10:19 PM
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Re: [majid_sabet] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

Interesting read. Thanks.

ClimbClimb

Mar 14, 2010, 1:14 AM
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Re: [majid_sabet] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (4 ratings)	Can't Post

Sad story, interesting information, highly relevant to climbing, bolting and self-belaying.

jakedatc, if you'd read the report, and took a step back, you'd probably agree. As for majid being an "ambulance chaser", that's clearly not true -- he's posting relevant information in a relevant forum, without any effort to profit from others' misery.

timstich

Mar 14, 2010, 4:17 PM
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Re: [ClimbClimb] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

It doesn't offend me that this report gets bumped from time to time. Pete Zabrok usually does it since he first posted the link back when it happened in 2000.

dagibbs

Mar 15, 2010, 5:06 PM
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jakedatc wrote:

majid_sabet wrote:

This an old caving report with a lot ropes, bolts, drilling and rope eating devices attached here and there so take your time while reading this.

http://www.caves.org/...nh/45/ivyaccrpt.html

This is CLIMBING not Caving

They were climbing. Happens the cliff they were working on was underground -- but doesn't make it any less climbing.

JAB

Mar 15, 2010, 5:15 PM
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Re: [dagibbs] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

Good analysis of the accident. I'm a bit surprised that there isn't more on the cause of death. Since he was alive after the fall, it would be interesting to know if he eventually died because of trauma caused by the fall, or if he was suffocated by his harness. In that case, it would be worth mentioning in the conclusions the need of a knife and of course that you shouldn't use improvised harnesses. In fact, I think that should have been mentioned in any case.

USnavy

Mar 21, 2010, 11:52 PM
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Re: [ClimbClimb] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

ClimbClimb wrote:

As for majid being an "ambulance chaser", that's clearly not true -- he's posting relevant information in a relevant forum, without any effort to profit from others' misery.

Yes, it’s normal for someone to spend the better part of every day looking up climbing accidents on the Internet.

The interesting part is that Majid thinks if he analyses climbing accidents and understands them, that makes him immune to becoming a statistic himself. Well bad news Majid, you can memorize Accidents in North American Mountaineering to the point that you speak it aloud well sleeping but that won’t keep you safe. Safety in this sport derives from more then reading books.

(This post was edited by USnavy on Mar 22, 2010, 12:01 AM)

davidnn5

Mar 22, 2010, 12:01 AM
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Re: [USnavy] 2. The belay rope was cut in two, half of which was recovered [In reply to] Report this Post Average: (0 ratings)	Can't Post

USnavy wrote:

ClimbClimb wrote:

As for majid being an "ambulance chaser", that's clearly not true -- he's posting relevant information in a relevant forum, without any effort to profit from others' misery.

Yes, it’s normal for someone to spend the better part of every day looking up climbing accidents on the Internet.

You climb, and you spend whatever time you spend on a climbing site. Majid works in rescue.

The smart people are the silent ones. Those who don't like whatever X person posts (for whatever reason), so they don't read it, and don't comment.

Personally, I want to read about things that can go wrong. I might not read every one, but I don't begrudge any being posted.

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