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kobaz
Apr 6, 2010, 5:40 PM
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He's already done several of the Seven Summits.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1
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i_h8_choss
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mattsheat
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Wish I had parents who would bankroll my climbing trips.
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cannibal_hect0r
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I'm rooting for him but god Id hate to lose my fingers and toes from frostbite at that age.
His dad & said girlfriend better be well trained also lest they die in the attempt to summit.
Go dude, go! hope you break the record!
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altelis
Apr 7, 2010, 1:52 PM
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kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1
In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager.
I wonder if there are enough young altitude mountaineers to make a study. Especially given that climbing requires so many complex decisions to be made, during which we rely on our frontal lobe executive functions to override our more emotional centers. And of course given that the frontal lobe doesn't really become fully developed until our early 20's and those other centers are pretty much fully developed by adolescence....
Of course, we as a bunch aren't necessarily known as being the most rational banana in the bunch, now are we...
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camhead
Apr 7, 2010, 2:18 PM
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hmmm...
-article uses the word "conquer" in reference to successful summits? CHECK
-article calls Denali "Mt. McKinley?" CHECK
I have already lost interest.
*** Edited to say that I just checked the location of "Europe's highest Peak," Mt. Elbrus. Europe is not a continent anyway, but this designation, given the location, seems really contrived.
Ok, enough of being a grump.
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kachoong
Apr 7, 2010, 2:33 PM
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altelis wrote: kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager.
You think that's any worse than the affect teenage drug-use will have on his adolescent brain?
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kachoong
Apr 7, 2010, 2:48 PM
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Yeah, the seven continents are a load of bollocks anyway. Europe and most of Asia are joined. India is actually connected to Australia, but since India is sliding under Tibet that still leaves Eurasia with Everest as its highest. In all there are 14 or so major plates, so it's those summits that would be more meaningful.
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greatview
Apr 7, 2010, 2:57 PM
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europeans very often see the elbrus as the highest european mountain, just depends on where you draw the frontiers. there is for exemple a central european plate geological that is not identically with the political boarders, and especially the political boarders get expanded pretty far east at the moment. turkey might get into the eu within the next decade, which is already part of the orient. same thing with ukrain, the only reason the georgian republic is not considered within a reasonable time is because of the political unrests there. you see, its not that exeptional to call the elbrus a european mountain, the western kaukasus mountains are considered to be european geologigally anyway, hard to draw a line there ...
btt: good luck to the boy, i however dont like the chasing for fame on everest and neither at that age.
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edge
Apr 7, 2010, 3:36 PM
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I'm awaiting the Matt Lauer interview on the Today show before formulating any opinions.
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agdavis
Apr 7, 2010, 3:52 PM
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altelis wrote: kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager. I wonder if there are enough young altitude mountaineers to make a study. Especially given that climbing requires so many complex decisions to be made, during which we rely on our frontal lobe executive functions to override our more emotional centers. And of course given that the frontal lobe doesn't really become fully developed until our early 20's and those other centers are pretty much fully developed by adolescence.... Of course, we as a bunch aren't necessarily known as being the most rational banana in the bunch, now are we...
As someone with a degree in cognitive neuroscience, I think it is highly likely that chronic hypoxia would affect brain development -- at least to some extent. While the physical development has slowed considerably by 13 years old, there is still much development that needs to take place.
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shoo
Apr 7, 2010, 3:56 PM
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Talk about peaking too early.
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Apr 7, 2010, 5:01 PM
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camhead wrote: greatview wrote: ...the western kaukasus mountains are considered to be european geologigally anyway, hard to draw a line there ... I am unfamiliar with these "Kaukasus" mountains. Are they named for Ron Kauk?
Ron doesn't build mountains, he crushes them.
Dur.
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altelis
Apr 7, 2010, 5:03 PM
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kachoong wrote: altelis wrote: kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager. You think that's any worse than the affect teenage drug-use will have on his adolescent brain?
seriously? Seriously!?!??
You are right, all teenagers take loads of drugs. I also did say that it's a bad thing he's climbing peaks because it would be worse than all the crack he would otherwise be free basing
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coastal_climber
Apr 7, 2010, 5:11 PM
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altelis wrote: You are right, all teenagers take loads of drugs.
I hope thats sarcasm.
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altelis
Apr 7, 2010, 5:32 PM
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Of course it's sarcasm. I was lashing out against the inane response to my. Sheesh.
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altelis wrote: kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager.
I forgot where I read this, but I remember reading that adaptation to high-altitude hypoxia is one of the few things that older adults (defined as 35+) do much better than younger people (18-24yo). It was one of the arguments for why the average age of successful mountaneerers is so much higher than an average age of participants in other outdoor sports. (Of course part of it also is because the older adults are more likely to have the money and the time to go on these expeditions, not exactly something that a 20yo might pull off easily).
If that is true, I do wonder about this kid...
...though I am assuming that he would do the ascent with bottled oxygen. And there is, obviously, a lot of variation from individual to individual.
Still, this is a textbook publicity stint if there evder was one...
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davidnn5
Apr 7, 2010, 9:29 PM
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altelis wrote: Of course it's sarcasm. I was lashing out against the inane response to my. Sheesh.
In any case, Kachoong seems to have forgotten his roots. My first thought as an Aussie on reading the title of this thread was:
"I wonder if the time spent on Everest will mean more or less brain cells murdered than the equivalent amount of time a 13 year old would spend drinking" ...
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Johnny_Fang
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altelis wrote: kachoong wrote: altelis wrote: kobaz wrote: He's already done several of the Seven Summits. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/06/national/main6367552.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 In all seriousness, I'm very curious how the chronic hypoxia of high altitude climbing could affect the growing brain of a teenager. You think that's any worse than the affect teenage drug-use will have on his adolescent brain? seriously? Seriously!?!?? You are right, all teenagers take loads of drugs. I also did say that it's a bad thing he's climbing peaks because it would be worse than all the crack he would otherwise be free basing
hahaha, now THIS is the kind of layered misunderstanding of sarcasm that makes me come back to rockclimbing.com again and again.
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Apr 8, 2010, 12:44 AM
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When I was in high school, there was a story about some kid who was flying across the country to become the youngest pilot to ever fly across the country.
She crashed just after she took off.
She's dead now. I wonder how much flying even meant to her?
I'm not saying anything, I'm just sayin.
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rangerrob
Apr 15, 2010, 6:32 PM
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The media learned long ago that they could sell climbing stories by using words like "conquering". I cringe every time I hear a young climber use that word..no doubt influenced by the bullet in their head.
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guangzhou
Apr 19, 2010, 1:38 AM
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Good to know our youth are still out doing great things.
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skiclimb
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Good for him.. Bad for my already poor impression of Everest.
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angry wrote: When I was in high school, there was a story about some kid who was flying across the country to become the youngest pilot to ever fly across the country. She crashed just after she took off. She's dead now. I wonder how much flying even meant to her?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Dubroff
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