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angry
May 27, 2010, 1:41 AM
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So there is no way to avoid the jokes that come with this so I'll go ahead and set it up for y'all. I keep pulling my groin over and over. Seriously though, and it really hurts. In my life, I distinctly remember one groin pull, it wasn't bad and after a couple weeks totally went away. That is until this year. Sometime around Sept/Oct I got a groin pull, it was epic bad, I actually thought I had a hernia (I didn't) and I could barely move some days. Worse still, it just wouldn't get better. Finally around December it felt fine. I had a pretty good winter, groin wise, then I agitated the same side (doing a way sweet move brah) in April. As of 2 weeks ago it was still bothering me. Other than a few days here and there, it wasn't enough to really slow me down though. For the last 2 weeks that side hasn't hurt but it's probably because the right side is fucking killing me. This time I know for sure that I didn't do it climbing because I haven't climbed in that long (resting a muscle strain in my back). I am not out running or cycling or greco-roman wrestling and it's really hurting. It's just at the level where I can suck it up and climb but waaay off from being comfortable. So clearly, I've got a weak ass groin. What should I do that could potentially expedite the healing process and what exercises should I do both now and when I'm healed that should ensure this stops being so reoccurant. For the more anatomical folks here, the pain is worse with adduction (move inward, thighmaster) and is pretty bad for lifting my leg if I'm lying on my back. According to this photo it's definitely one of the adductor muscles.
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Bolter
May 27, 2010, 2:23 AM
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It is Karma for being such an @-hole.
angry wrote: So there is no way to avoid the jokes that come with this so I'll go ahead and set it up for y'all. I keep pulling my groin over and over. Seriously though, and it really hurts. In my life, I distinctly remember one groin pull, it wasn't bad and after a couple weeks totally went away. That is until this year. Sometime around Sept/Oct I got a groin pull, it was epic bad, I actually thought I had a hernia (I didn't) and I could barely move some days. Worse still, it just wouldn't get better. Finally around December it felt fine. I had a pretty good winter, groin wise, then I agitated the same side (doing a way sweet move brah) in April. As of 2 weeks ago it was still bothering me. Other than a few days here and there, it wasn't enough to really slow me down though. For the last 2 weeks that side hasn't hurt but it's probably because the right side is fucking killing me. This time I know for sure that I didn't do it climbing because I haven't climbed in that long (resting a muscle strain in my back). I am not out running or cycling or greco-roman wrestling and it's really hurting. It's just at the level where I can suck it up and climb but waaay off from being comfortable. So clearly, I've got a weak ass groin. What should I do that could potentially expedite the healing process and what exercises should I do both now and when I'm healed that should ensure this stops being so reoccurant. For the more anatomical folks here, the pain is worse with adduction (move inward, thighmaster) and is pretty bad for lifting my leg if I'm lying on my back. According to this photo it's definitely one of the adductor muscles. [image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Anterior_Hip_Muscles_2.PNG/220px-Anterior_Hip_Muscles_2.PNG[/image]
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aerili
May 27, 2010, 5:42 AM
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I think I distinctly remember telling you this could happen. And I already gave you my best advice about it (The Matrix). Of course, I also had shitty PT to treat mine....hopefully you can get something better.
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bennydh
May 27, 2010, 6:03 AM
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Steroids, creatine, and http://www.thighmaster.net/ I've pulled my groin badly once, hurts like hell. Not nearly as bad as a testicular torsion(i'd rather have my jaw broken in a vise), but anything in that vicinity tends to hurt. ... seriously though, get something to help repair that muscle. Since it is used all the time, it will be hard for it to heal completely un-assisted.
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angry
May 28, 2010, 1:49 PM
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I looked it up, apparently I posted an extremely similar thread in August. I totally forgot about that and that groin pull. That makes 4 groin pulls in 12 months not 3. You didn't warn me about anything though, just suggested the Matrix. I'll look into it. BTW, I'm seeing an ortho/sports doc on Tuesday for my finger, my SI, and a muscle I messed up in my upper back. It's no big deal to add another thing to my list.
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hansundfritz
May 28, 2010, 2:23 PM
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And what's "The Matrix" more specifically? When I google that I get all kinds of training-related stuff: powders, meditation techniques, technical stuff about cells. I've got a few nagging injuries myself (right groin included) and am wondering what I can do to heal faster and recover more quickly from work-outs -- at 47 years of age. As bennyhd suggested, the groin gets used a great deal (har). I generally aggravate it by: putting on socks (welcome to the aging process) and getting out of my office chair.
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angry
May 28, 2010, 2:33 PM
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Great question, I don't know the answer. I failed to google it too. Perhaps Aerili will be less vague if she sees this thread again.
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billcoe_
May 28, 2010, 2:38 PM
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I just showed up to give bolter a single star and to wish you well. Like a lot of things, I don't know shit about this either. Good luck!
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kaizen
May 28, 2010, 2:48 PM
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Sounds very similar to what I went through over the last 18 months. Go see a sports hernia specialist. A sports hernia has nothing to do with a hernia, so go see a specialist if the PTs on this site agree with me.
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el_layclimber
May 28, 2010, 3:43 PM
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angry wrote: Where do you find the best HGH? Tijuana. You can also just sub bovine growth hormone and a bottle of Muscle Milk. You can get a pretty safe groin pull down there too. I don't know why anyone just goes out and does this stuff on their own - pay a professional to teach you proper technique.
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aerili
May 28, 2010, 4:25 PM
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I said, "This can be a bitch of an injury. I had one that plagued me for almost 10 years." So, your problems in getting it to go away/stop it from re-occurring was what I was referring to. The Matrix is not rehab for an acute groin pull. It is an intense lifting exercise designed by Gary Gray (a PT) for conditioning. It seemed to help my adductor woes go away once I started doing it years ago during the chronic stage of my injury. Here is a video of a trainer who actually is doing it right. Here is a write-up of how to execute it correctly. Remember, this is not an exercise designed for people with injuries, especially acute ones. (fyi partly for lurkers out there) If you have a back or knee or shoulder or ____ injury, this could make it worse!!! I have no idea if this will help or hurt your hip injury either!! That is all.
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davidnn5
May 28, 2010, 9:48 PM
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Sad face for your adductors. I tore my left one 8 years ago, and it screwed me up enough to incur a partial tear of the right one. I routinely re-injured it for around 3 years until I started exercising and stretching the area more (carefully, and when not injured). It feels scary to do load-bearing exercises such as squats when even climbing stairs can lead to very sore adductors the next day, but in the end it has been beneficial. I think time was 70% of the healing by itself (re-injuries became less common and less painful over the years). I have no real advice, but I definitely share your pain. To this day if I do anything that requires kneeling and/or flexing the adductors over and over (like concreting), i'll be hobbling around like an invalid for days.
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onceahardman
May 28, 2010, 10:35 PM
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In reply to: Sounds very similar to what I went through over the last 18 months. Go see a sports hernia specialist. A sports hernia has nothing to do with a hernia, so go see a specialist if the PTs on this site agree with me. This is exactly right. Career threatening without surgery, to a professional athlete.
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angry
May 28, 2010, 11:40 PM
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BTW, love the stars on this thread!!
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