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So you're lashed into the belay, can't walk around but you've got that free hand to take a quick picture with.

Any tips on creative photography while staring at your partner's ass?


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You have to be creative setting up your belay BEFORE you are lashed in staring at your partner's ass. Anticipate the best angle, where you need to be to get a great shot of a roof or crux move. You need to be there beforehand.


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bring a third person along so you can focus on belaying, and have them take the pics. Unless you want an exciting fall pic.

Eric


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Now I'd do climbing shots in two ways, one is to have the third person, which is effective for different angles. The other requires a bit more thought.

I haven't done this much but when I have I've gotten decent results. Set up a tripod aim pick a section you where you want to take some pictures in the route, set up your camera with a remote button / cord once your climber hits the area snap away. This is great if you have an automatic advance camera. My Minolta doesn't have one so I can only snap one at a time. The next time I try it I'll take my girlfriends Cannon Rebel G out and it should do the trick... It even has a wireless remote... Sweet!


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Yeah, sweet until you're on the second pitch and someone comes by and finds your camera


I heard a great tip about butt shots somewhere:
If you have to take a butt shot then at least try to get the Stealth rubber logo on the bottom of the climber's shoes so you can sell the picture to Stealth


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Fiend... The tripod thing is good but your right, you have to do it at a really quite crag or at an odd time of day so no-one walk off with you camera.


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You can either:
1. get a tripod set and use a remote control camera... or
2. get someone to belay so you can get the picture...

Never take the picture from just below... walk back and take it or take them from the upper part of the wall or like a profile... just be creative!


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Climb in a party of three to get the best pictures. Sometimes, you may want to have a third person on the ground with a telephoto, and they can just walk around and get shots. It becomes more difficult on the upper pitches though...

AW


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What I've been practicing with is taking along a 2nd rope. I will rappell down the second rope, lock off, and snap photos from above of climbers. It really isn't that hard to do and you get EXCELLENT pictures.


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I have to agree with Andy, the best shots I have taken were when I was on rapel and tied off. You can get the proper angle of the move you want to shoot and don't end up with either a butt shot or the top of the head.

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Another option is to always send the camera with the leader instead of leaving it with the belayer. That way the leader can shoot the second coming up and get a great face shot instead of looking up for the butt shot.


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Pick a good vantage point (or a few) before anyone starts climbing; you can usually do this by scrambling around a bit but look for spots that are either level with or above the climber (gullies work well) and try to make sure that you're on the sunny side of the crag unless you want a silouette. Being the third person can sometimes be frustrating but it's the best way to get good shots...


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  Has anybody climbed with a camera before? and did you just clip it onto your harness or what? some of the best pics i have seen are from bizarre angles, perspectives that you don't see everyday.


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wel when i was clibming this summer, i put my camera in acase and a string that was attached to the camera came out of the case and i just used a beaner and attached it to my harness, it worked very well and u could get great picks, even if u were the one climbing!


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One of my friends climbs with a camera. It is a cheaper 35mm... you wouldn't want to take something that might break. But to tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever seen any pictures from him.


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I have the greatest camera... It is a Minolta advanced photo system (that's all I know about it, lol) and it is waterproof, shockproof (it survived a 50 foot fall, and I've landed on top of it several times, too, and it still works perfectly.) I've clipped it onto my harnass and climbed with it before, but I kind of forgot to take pictures because I was so intent on climbing.


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Okay, found info on my camera, in case you are wondering: It is a Minolta Vectis Weathermatic. http://www.minoltausa.com/eprise/main/MinoltaUSA/MUSAContent/CPG/CPGProducts?cname=cam You can get product info there.


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I often climb with a camera... Make sure you have a case that's a hard shell with padding in side or just a padded case -- the camera's gonna take some bumps. Second, look at the climb and think about where you're going to be. If you're doing a layback onto your right side, put the camera on the left. This may sound obvious but cameras tend to take up alot of room so thinking ahead will be helpful. You can either climb with the camera around your neck, or the way I prefer -- my camera case has an adjustable loop on it, for hanging the camera around your neck or shoulder. I open this up all the way and use it as a belt -- this way I can slide the camera around my waist easily if it's in my way.

Hope this helps!!


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get a disposable camera and gear tape some lightweight rope to it so you can hang it on your harness. then you don't care if it gets hurt.


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Hah, I wore short the first time I went climbing... they were so far up my a$$ in all the pics of me... I (cough, cough) lost all of them...


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Nice pics Pinscar.


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Yeah, it's not hard to attach a camera to your harness. But there some high-dollor cameras I don't think I would climb with. I'd only climb with cheap cameras.


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climb with a good looking chick (i guess vice versa if your a girl) and then it won't be such a DREADED butt shot after all
But seriously...i'm new into photography (just got a Nikon N65 over Christmas) and u guys are good with the info!


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the first time i climbed with my camera i was worried stiff, it aint a cheap one! i affixed two karibiners to it and my harness.... i passed it to the second climber midway to shoot me.... it was a hassle with all those karabiners... i later did without them..man.. i was squeezing the camera strap like no one's business... tip: multiple strap your camera to prevent it from swinging and smashing against rocks...

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That second line is where it's at! We always do one route and fix the rope at the top (and the bottom for ascending). then we can asc/dec. at will and never get the butt shot!

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