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darkgift06


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just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related


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darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why


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majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why
well?????


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whipper wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why
well?????

follow the yellow webbing and tell me what you see



also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement. IMO, slacking system should be classified in its own system cause none of the rigging is similar to climbing or typical highline .


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when your highline breaks, what happens?

You fall.


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majid_sabet wrote:
whipper wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why
well?????

follow the yellow webbing and tell me what you see

[IMG]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4808/screenhunter01jul122008.gif[/IMG]

also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement. IMO, slacking system should be classified in its own system cause none of the rigging is similar to climbing or typical highline .

I followed the yellow webbing... and I see... yellow webbing! What's wrong with the yellow webbing?

In the US, a highline = a slackline up high, with the additional rigging and extra line to withstand falls onto the line.


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kobaz wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
whipper wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why
well?????

follow the yellow webbing and tell me what you see

[IMG]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4808/screenhunter01jul122008.gif[/IMG]

also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement. IMO, slacking system should be classified in its own system cause none of the rigging is similar to climbing or typical highline .

I followed the yellow webbing... and I see... yellow webbing! What's wrong with the yellow webbing?

In the US, a highline = a slackline up high, with the additional rigging and extra line to withstand falls onto the line.

if you closely follow the yellow webbing where points in the middle of the guy's leg you will see that is constructed in two section and both sections are tensioned over each other instead of using a biner in between. using software over software is bad idea on high tensioned system.


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majid_sabet wrote:
also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement.

Majid,

It was my understanding that you were not a subject matter expert in the practice of slackline / highline rigging. I appologize if that i incorrect.

It appears that you are making some statements here that aren't quite right in regards to the horizontal movement restrictions.

Slackline Joe


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slacklinejoe wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement.

Majid,

It was my understanding that you were not a subject matter expert in the practice of slackline / highline rigging. I appologize if that i incorrect.

It appears that you are making some statements here that aren't quite right in regards to the horizontal movement restrictions.

Slackline Joe

slacklining is not highline and should not be consider as one. the jerry rigging system you guys build it may serve you for what you do but it should not be labeled as highline.

The highline and slackline may look similar but in constructing highline ,rigger pay extreme attention to forces,safety factors, anchors, hardware etc. slacker use whatever they got in their rack to build a line over a canyon.

follow the image i post and look at the yellow webbing from the anchor to where it is in the middle of guys leg. the two yellow webbings are looped over each other and without hardware. shouldn't you use webbing-biner-webbing ?


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You're switching points. I was referring to the lateral movement restrictions to which you mentioned. This isn't normally required, but for preferences is not excluded. It certainly isn't common.

Generally speaking, however, among the slackline community, quality of rigging does not exclude a line from being a highline. In the history of the sport, especially the early years, many single layer lines have been walked up high, and thus, became highlines.

If you carry the same logic and restrict definitions as you suggest, would be suggest that early climbers "anchors" didn't count since they weren't equalized - so they weren't really "multipitch climbing". I don't think anyone here will agree with that assertion.

If it helps, there is a definition of a highline on Wikipedia. The only listed requirement is that it's a slackline above the safe falling distance. Or at least as of 7/13/10.

Have a good day.


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slacklinejoe wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement.


It appears that you are making some statements here that aren't quite right in regards to the horizontal movement restrictions.

Slackline Joe
Majid is talking out of his ass? No way!


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Gotta say, I'd go with a guy named "slacklinejoe" on this one. I don't know, call it a hunch.


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BTW: For those that are interested in the idea of cutting a slack line, I recall seeing this:
reachable from the Slackline Express video page.


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bill413 wrote:
BTW: For those that are interested in the idea of cutting a slack line, I recall seeing this:
reachable from the Slackline Express video page.
Yes, lines under tension recoil at extreme speeds when they fail. People have been killed in the Navy from standing by a mooring line when it broke, recoiled at high speed, and hit them. A slackline recoil probably wouldn't kill you but it could certainly give you the privilege of taking an ambulance ride if it hits you.


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A slackline recoil probably wouldn't kill you but it could certainly give you the privilege of taking an ambulance ride if it hits you.

Depends wholy on the rigging involved. Webbing only tends to leave whip marks. I've been on the receiving end of several of these.

Metal shards from broken carabiners or other hardware can break bones or lead to deep wounds. I too have had one or two of these injuries. Thankfully no ambulances involved.


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Several?! What are you doing that your slacklines are constantly breaking? Tongue


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USnavy wrote:
Several?! What are you doing that your slacklines are constantly breaking? Tongue

not listening to majid's advice for rigging ;-)

scnr


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majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why

your mom's a stupid retard.


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USnavy wrote:
Several?! What are you doing that your slacklines are constantly breaking?

To date I've intentially destroyed over 100 lines. It's called product testing.

All but 4 or 5 of the incidents were in my pull tester in controlled conditions.

The two most dangerous accidents were protype gear designed for ultra light applications. Those were related to insufficent strength rating from 3rd parties. We were testing hardware from different suppliers, things didn't make it to their rated strength and once I took a biner to the calf and another time I took shards of metal from a tensioning system to the heel. The tensioning system involved has never been used for any slacklines that I know of other than my testing and it landed me on crutches for a month or two.

The line snaps were relatively harmless. Scary, yes, but none were high load lines. Most of these incidents were cause by A) testing different sling configurations B)Using webbing rated below 2,000 lbs tensile strength C) Abuse of old lines


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USnavy wrote:
slacklinejoe wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
also, slacking is not a highline. Highlines normally come with directional ropes to control the left and right movement.


It appears that you are making some statements here that aren't quite right in regards to the horizontal movement restrictions.

Slackline Joe
Majid is talking out of his ass? No way!

Alright MR nose in day climber with 440 lbs pig hauling with 9:1 z-rig system

question # 1

HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE BUILD A HIGHLINE ?


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majid_sabet wrote:
HOW MANY TIMES YOU HAVE BUILD A HIGHLINE ?

"you have build"? Seriously?

Anywho... before you two start dropping trowsers, it's important to understand a few things.

A) As much as we'd love to have them, standardized methods for rigging for slacklines, much less highlines, do not exist.

Slackers borrow what we can from climbers, but some of our principals are different so besides SERENE, a lot of is made up as we go. That leads towards the next point.

B) Just because X person has rigged Y way for Z many times and lived, doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Many of the earliest highlines were single strand.

To this day, soft point systems still persist, even in highline applications (so webbing on webbing occurs). While in high tension applications it can cause webbing to melt together, it's even on this forum as a recommendation to get tensioning systems out of the way.

While in my personal opinion it's more like tightrope or slackrope, Dean Potter has been using single layer Dynema rope and calling it a highline.

Some people will go so far as to argue that an overhead safety line relegates a highline to, dunno some limbo of a slackline that's up high. Classification wise, the sport is a mess with purists, nit pickers and people who don't care what you call it, but they just want to have fun.

C) It's a freestyle sport, more so than climbing. People have taken that mentality and pushed it towards gear and rigging as well. I've walked lines that were secured with nearly a thousand dollars of rescue grade climbing equipment, and then later walked a line attached to someone's bumper back at the camp site. I'm not saying it's a good thing that it's so willy-nilly, but it's a fact of life that we have to work with.


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jrathfon wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why

your mom's a stupid retard.
That must explain why she is always trying to ride my dick after I told her countless times I already have a girlfriend.


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USnavy wrote:
jrathfon wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why

your mom's a stupid retard.
That must explain why she is always trying to ride my dick after I told her countless times I already have a girlfriend.

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SPLAT, simple some of us just cant see that the answer is right in front of your face. OK Now that I solved the worlds mystery I will be on my way now. GOODBYE........


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USnavy wrote:
jrathfon wrote:
majid_sabet wrote:
darkgift06 wrote:
just watched this video on youtube, seems in all the times I've watched highline video's I never once thought about what would happen if the line broke....
http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related

bunch of stupid retard and I will tell you why

your mom's a stupid retard.
That must explain why she is always trying to ride my dick after I told her countless times I already have a girlfriend.

Classy. And confusing. Was your point that a woman has to be retarded to want a piece of you?

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