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Hi I was wondering if anybody could give me some info on an old Stubai Ice Axe that I have. I have been searching the Internet but cannot find any similar axes with a hammer end on one side. Thanks.
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My guess; mid- sixties, but more likely, early 70's.
Carabiner holes in the head showed up around the mid/late sixties.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Stubai couldn't help you with more info.
Nice tool though, with a little finesse , you could probably get up AI4/ WI3+, and look way cool while you're at it.
Mario


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have you tried:
http://www.stubai-bergsport.com ?


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Thanks for the info Mario. I tried emailing Stubai a couple of months back but never got a reply. I will give them another go.
Stu.
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Send that photo to Gary Neptune (gary@neptunemountaineering.com) He'll be able to ID it for you,
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I think I have a similar model, but, not quite the same.

My guess is mid 70's to late 70' perhaps even into the early 80's.

You looking to part with it? If so, let me know!

-Brian in SLC


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Hi thanks for the help everyone. I contacted Stubai again & got the following reply-
"this style was manufactured from the 1950ies till beginning of 1970ties. I canīt figure out the exact time from when to when as it was not common at this time to mark the with a patch-no.I hope this information was useful even we are not able to give you an exact date."


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I then contacted Gary at Neptunemountaineering.com as suggested by maldaly and got the following useful info -
"Hi Stuart,
I'm quite sure it isn't from the 50s, more likely the early 70s. The decal looks like that vintage. The tool would commonly be called a North Wall Hammer. That style tool was not uncommon although normal ice axes accounted for most of the production.
I hope this helps.
Gary"


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kindns wrote:
Hi I was wondering if anybody could give me some info on an old Stubai Ice Axe that I have. I have been searching the Internet but cannot find any similar axes with a hammer end on one side. Thanks.[image]

I think Clint Eastwood used one in "The Eiger Sanction" Wink


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onceahardman wrote:
kindns wrote:
Hi I was wondering if anybody could give me some info on an old Stubai Ice Axe that I have. I have been searching the Internet but cannot find any similar axes with a hammer end on one side. Thanks.[image]

I think Clint Eastwood used one in "The Eiger Sanction" Wink

No he didn't. My friend Mike has the EXACT tool he uses. It's metal and we've used it a lot cleaning dirt out of cracks. It's a good tool but I wouldn't want to climb with it.


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angry wrote:
No he didn't. My friend Mike has the EXACT tool he uses. It's metal and we've used it a lot cleaning dirt out of cracks. It's a good tool but I wouldn't want to climb with it.

I think Gary of Neptone nailed it above. On Angrys post here, in this pic it looks like a Chouinard/Frost bamboo shafted model. These sell used for crazy money on ebay. Your friend Mike is using a $300-$400 axe to scrape cracks?



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billcoe_ wrote:
angry wrote:
No he didn't. My friend Mike has the EXACT tool he uses. It's metal and we've used it a lot cleaning dirt out of cracks. It's a good tool but I wouldn't want to climb with it.

I think Gary of Neptone nailed it above. On Angrys post here, in this pic it looks like a Chouinard/Frost bamboo shafted model. These sell used for crazy money on ebay. Your friend Mike is using a $300-$400 axe to scrape cracks?
[image]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OvnCtKGr6bE/SwRRcZEs_lI/AAAAAAAAAXA/rDOJYU3weiQ/s1600/cees2.jpg[/image]

We're talking about two different tools. The tool Clint climbs with on the Eiger is all metal, with a hammer grip and head. It's similar to this



But not as refined.

I don't have the movie with me here on de rock. Watch it though, you'll see.


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Last year, I researched about the same axe. I contacted Stubai and they informed me that there were a large number of them manufactured. There are no spare parts left available as I understand. I was impressed by their quick reply to my enquiry. The axe I asked about was a Jeff Lowe.

Les DuncanSmile


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Nice Hummingbird. I have one a little older. Wink

How do you know your friend Mike has the exact same North Wall hammer?

Are you saying Jonathan Hemlock used a hammer that had no spike, and instead had a hammer handle, like the Hummingbird you showed? I would think the spike would come in handy as an additional weapon, in case you needed it to sanction somebody.

My recollection is, Hemlock used a hammer that had a spike. I don't know any other hammers with no spike, except the Hummingbirds.


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Another vote on the 1970's for the OP's tool, based on when (IIRC) that Stubai label appeared on the shafts.


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onceahardman wrote:
Are you saying Jonathan Hemlock used a hammer that had no spike, and instead had a hammer handle, like the Hummingbird you showed?

Yeah, they all did. Probably a CAMP?

Here's a bad screen shot of it in action (attached).


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The hammer in the Clint action photo I believe is a Simond.
Believe it's the same style as what Titoune has on the Wild Things website.
There is a great old photo of Nicolaus Jaeger climbing " leashless"with that hammer and a Cougar model ice axe.
There's even one for sell on eBay for 60 bucks.
Camp, Salewa, Stubai,Simond, all had very similar looking hammers on the market; it's just that the Simond is the nicest looking.
The Hummingbirds didn't start showing until the late 70's/ early 80's, and those had a fiberglass handle.
Mario


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julio412 wrote:
The Hummingbirds didn't start showing until the late 70's/ early 80's, and those had a fiberglass handle.

1974 I think. Not sure when they changed the handle, but, started out as fiberglass:



At least by the early 80's they were metal shafts. The short hammers with tubes were kind of the rage in Bozeman back then.


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