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j_ung
Jul 29, 2010, 4:26 PM
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This vid's a little on the long side.
It's of Chris Warner giving a talk on leadership to a group of Google employees. Within the hour, Chris spends about 40-45 minutes relating the story of him and his team on K2, including how they combined forces with several other teams and the aftermath of their summit bid. It's not just a video of Chris talking, BTW. There are several amazing photos and a few video clips within. The tale is utterly gripping, and as usual, Chris tells it like no other could.
If you have some time to kill, check it out.
http://www.broadbandsports.com/node/30430&gvsm=1
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kachoong
Jul 29, 2010, 6:01 PM
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Nice! Some great images there!
Interesting note that less than half the people who summitted Everest in May 2007 have EVER summitted K2.
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The vid of the traverse around the last serac band was pretty gripping. Also, the story made me want to throttle that Italian guy.
(This post was edited by kachoong on Jul 29, 2010, 7:15 PM)
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imnotclever
Jul 29, 2010, 8:20 PM
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that was good!
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boymeetsrock
Jul 30, 2010, 3:39 AM
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Wow. Gripping indeed. Thanks for sharing that.
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majid_sabet
Jul 30, 2010, 4:39 AM
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I heard from a friend in the area that he got hurt pretty bad few weeks ago.
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skiclimb
Jul 30, 2010, 5:12 AM
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I almost feel sorry for these regular joe google folks that sat there. ..
Love the long dead air in the question section.
I found that talk gripping but at least I can relate to it.
still chuckling about a bunch of stuff. STill sobered by some things and a bit outraged about a couple.
watch it
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boymeetsrock
Jul 30, 2010, 1:04 PM
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Skiclimb,true true about, chuckling, sobered, outraged.
RE outraged, I'm really surprised at some folks behaviors at altitude, and in regards to high altitude travel. Having not been up high like that myself, I don't really feel at liberty to comment. But I though we had entered a more civilized day in time.
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kachoong
Jul 30, 2010, 2:00 PM
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boymeetsrock wrote: Skiclimb,true true about, chuckling, sobered, outraged. RE outraged, I'm really surprised at some folks behaviors at altitude, and in regards to high altitude travel. Having not been up high like that myself, I don't really feel at liberty to comment. But I though we had entered a more civilized day in time.
Yeah... very true... I dunno, if put into 8000m survival mode, how I would react in that particular situation, but I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in the vestibule of my own damn tent with someone else in my sleeping bag... I would probably turn green... and they wouldn't like it when I'm green!
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skiclimb
Jul 30, 2010, 2:31 PM
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Yeah that tent/sleeping bag thing woulda flipped me out..well if I weren't to exhausted to be enraged maybe. Mountainside murder sure popped into my mind there.
The real questions i would have had were about the decisions to help during the blizzard at C4. There is a point at which you might have to abandon someone. Alot would depend on your condition, your confidence in your survivability. I would like to know how close to the edge Warner and his team felt they were pushing it that day.
It echoes the type of things you saw with Boukreev (sp?) during the Everest situation related by into thin air. The difference between extremely strong and experienced people and those not as capable.
Does he feel that most of the folks who left C4 so fast..had to or just panicked?
Also I'd have technical questions about their acclimatization strategies.
Guess I'll just have to hope to catch one of his talks sometime.
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boymeetsrock
Jul 30, 2010, 3:05 PM
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kachoong wrote: Yeah... very true... I dunno, if put into 8000m survival mode, how I would react in that particular situation, but I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting in the vestibule of my own damn tent with someone else in my sleeping bag... I would probably turn green... and they wouldn't like it when I'm green!
Yeah, that part would have put the fire back in me (again speaking from NO experience). What was even more disconcerting to me, and the greater symptom of this attitude, was the decision to not look after their own teammates. That team truly displayed that once above 8,000m it was everyman for himself.
Skiclimb makes the valid point that one has to assess ones own abilities and reserves at this point. Warner obviously believed that he had enough left in the tanks to at least try to save the Czech(?) man. The other team did not seem to even have the consideration for their own teammates, never mind the rest of the folks up there. That seems to have been true before and after the blizzard hit.
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boymeetsrock
Jul 30, 2010, 3:07 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: I heard from a friend in the area that he got hurt pretty bad few weeks ago.
Here's hoping that Warner is OK !
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Rudmin
Jul 30, 2010, 3:12 PM
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I'm halfway through Viesturs K2 book and it's pretty crazy what kind of shenanigans went on there in the past. On the 1939 K2 expedition, the guys in the lower camps decided that the expedition leader and summit team had died based on a made up story or miscommunication. So they send the Sherpas up to strip all of the lower camps of sleeping bags and stoves, leave the doors open and scatter the food without checking the highest camp. Meanwhile, the summitters get within 700 feet of the summit and one guy dies trying to get back down.
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kane_schutzman
Jul 30, 2010, 6:13 PM
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Yea, would have made a MSR bomb and blew all those fuckers to another mountain.
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majid_sabet
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A friend of mine just returned from K2. she climbed to 7800 meter. According to her ,only climbers from Kazakhstan climbed K2. Everyone else failed to summit with couple of fatality.
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cbw
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Glad folks are watching these videos. It is critical that we all remember that partnership is the central pillar of mountaineering. Don't reach the peak, but miss the point. If you are interested, I have more videos of presentations to corporate groups, as well as other examples of using mountaineering as a metaphor for leadership development at my site: http://www.chrisbwarner.com
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Gmburns2000
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wow
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