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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 2:45 AM
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Me and few friends are heading up to the Red on Monday, and I was wondering if anyone could email me a topo? I can't afford the guidebook at the moment.
My email is: tim_herold@yahoo.com
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johnwesely
Jul 31, 2010, 3:02 AM
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timherold wrote: Me and few friends are heading up to the Red on Monday, and I was wondering if anyone could email me a topo? I can't afford the guidebook at the moment. My email is: tim_herold@yahoo.com
You want the topo for the entire Red River Gorge?
Here is what you can do.
Option 1: Look at peoples guidebooks when you get there.
Option 2: Go to RedRiverClimbing.com
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 3:10 AM
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I like your wit.
However, I believe there's a Dr. Topo guide in existence that details a few of the walls, which would be more than enough to keep us busy for a week. That's more of what I was hoping for.
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johnwesely
Jul 31, 2010, 3:28 AM
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timherold wrote: I like your wit. However, I believe there's a Dr. Topo guide in existence that details a few of the walls, which would be more than enough to keep us busy for a week. That's more of what I was hoping for.
The stuff I told you was way better than the topo. That is why I told you about it instead of giving you a link to the topo.
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 3:31 AM
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My bad. It's sometimes hard to judge the connotation of remarks over the internet. John's reply came off as snide, but I reckon I'm the ass for assuming...
Thanks for the link, though I won't have internet access while up there. I was hoping for something more tangible.
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currupt4130
Jul 31, 2010, 3:32 AM
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Then print some of it out?
If anyone has a laptop swing by Miguels and use the wifi there. Good lord some people amaze me.
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 3:38 AM
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No one in our group is bringing a laptop. And I wouldn't know what to print. I'd only end up with a mess of papers, half of which I probably wouldn't end up using. My apologies, man.
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currupt4130
Jul 31, 2010, 3:49 AM
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Sorry not trying to be a dick but we gave you a link to the most complete guide to the Red next to the guidebook.
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 3:56 AM
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No worries. I probably should have been more specific in my post and just asked for the Dr. Topo guide. I appreciate the help though, man.
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Lbrombach
Jul 31, 2010, 5:05 PM
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I went a few weeks ago without a guidebook and while it would certainly have been nice, we got by climbing at Muir Valley. There is a little metal tag at the base of each route that gives a rating. Just print direction to Muir Valley and perhaps the individual walls before you go.
And the Webers are fantastic people for letting us climb on their private property and taking such awesome care of it. Please follow their rules, keep things clean, etc if you go there.
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jakedatc
Jul 31, 2010, 9:57 PM
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robdotcalm wrote: Lbrombach wrote: There is a little metal tag at the base of each route that gives a rating. Good grief! Tell me that's just a joke! It can't be true rob.calm
Tis true. They are a bit bigger than a quarter and pretty subtle and inset into the rock. I wouldn't want to use it as my only guide though since you have to be like right up to the wall to read it and that would get old quick.
to the OP. uhh wouldn't you have to print out the Dr Topo guide anyway? so.... look at the online guide. figure out the walls you want to go to... print those. There is also an Iphone App that looks pretty awesome.
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johnwesely
Jul 31, 2010, 10:07 PM
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timherold wrote: My bad. It's sometimes hard to judge the connotation of remarks over the internet. John's reply came off as snide, but I reckon I'm the ass for assuming... Thanks for the link, though I won't have internet access while up there. I was hoping for something more tangible.
I was being snide, but I also gave you the best advice I could given your refusal to purchase the guide.
Here is some even better advice. Don't get so butthurt.
The rest of this post assumes your route profile is up to date:
Don't get suckered in to going to Military Wall. The easier routes there are easily some of the worst at The Red.
The advice to go to Muir Valley was sound. There are a lot of fun climbs in your range. Make sure to check out Plate Tectonics and the surrounding climbs. Bruisebrothers Wall will have a bunch of routes for you to do.
Don't just set up some draws and project something all day. There are a lot of great routes. Visit as many crags and do as many routes as you can.
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 10:17 PM
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Haha I'll keep all that in mind. I'm not much one for extended hangdogging or serious projecting at this point anyhow. I haven't updated my route profile lately, but I haven't improved much. Any recommended hard 10s/soft 11s?
Interesting about the Muir Valley rating tags.. I've never heard of that being done.
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johnwesely
Jul 31, 2010, 10:22 PM
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timherold wrote: Haha I'll keep all that in mind. I'm not much one for extended hangdogging or serious projecting at this point anyhow. I haven't updated my route profile lately, but I haven't improved much. Any recommended hard 10s/soft 11s? Interesting about the Muir Valley rating tags.. I've never heard of that being done.
All of the tens on the 5.10 wall at Roadside are pretty classic for the grade. The best .11 at the Gorge is Amarillo Sunset at the North 40.
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timherold
Jul 31, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Thanks man.
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robdotcalm
Jul 31, 2010, 10:24 PM
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 jakedatc wrote: robdotcalm wrote: Lbrombach wrote: There is a little metal tag at the base of each route that gives a rating. Good grief! Tell me that's just a joke! It can't be true rob.calm Tis true. They are a bit bigger than a quarter and pretty subtle and inset into the rock. I wouldn't want to use it as my only guide though since you have to be like right up to the wall to read it and that would get old quick. .
Ugh! Are you suggesting they make them bigger and maybe put a plaque at the base of the climb giving the name of the route and the beta! That would save lugging around a guidebook or downloading the information.
O, tempora! O, mores!
Gratias et valete bene!
RobertusPunctumPacificus
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jakedatc
Aug 1, 2010, 1:40 AM
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robdotcalm wrote: jakedatc wrote: robdotcalm wrote: Lbrombach wrote: There is a little metal tag at the base of each route that gives a rating. Good grief! Tell me that's just a joke! It can't be true rob.calm Tis true. They are a bit bigger than a quarter and pretty subtle and inset into the rock. I wouldn't want to use it as my only guide though since you have to be like right up to the wall to read it and that would get old quick. . Ugh! Are you suggesting they make them bigger and maybe put a plaque at the base of the climb giving the name of the route and the beta! That would save lugging around a guidebook or downloading the information. O, tempora! O, mores! Gratias et valete bene! RobertusPunctumPacificus
nah.. they are fine the way they are.. it is only that one area that is privately owned and unique. i just wouldn't suggest someone try to wander along the cliff looking at name plates trying to find routes. it is a waste of time.
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jakedatc
Aug 1, 2010, 1:50 AM
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johnwesely wrote: timherold wrote: Haha I'll keep all that in mind. I'm not much one for extended hangdogging or serious projecting at this point anyhow. I haven't updated my route profile lately, but I haven't improved much. Any recommended hard 10s/soft 11s? Interesting about the Muir Valley rating tags.. I've never heard of that being done. All of the tens on the 5.10 wall at Roadside are pretty classic for the grade. The best .11 at the Gorge is Amarillo Sunset at the North 40.
Amarillo is the coolest looking i will give you that but for anyone not your height it is definitely not soft. I was closer to sending Ro than i was Amarillo.
For soft go to Miur.. it is kind of an "anti sand bagging" area so we found them pretty soft. Gettin' lucky in kentucky and 5th bolt faith are pretty sweet.
If you are good at bouldering and pockets Aquaduck pocket, relaxed atmosphere and Third world lover at Left flank are hard pockets to easy top outs for .11s. Up Yonder (first anchor of Way up yonder) is pretty sweet for 11b at roadside
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cornstateclimber
Aug 1, 2010, 3:11 AM
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how many of you are going? your telling me that the group of you cant cough up enuff money between you to get the guide book? its sold in the gas stations and miguels, and cant be all that much!
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Lbrombach
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I think it's $40, and there is a brand new releases just a week ago. When we went, the old edition was sold out and the new one was not yet released. Noone was willing to part with an old one either at any price! Maybe with the new one out, someone at miguels will sell you an old one for cheap enough?
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