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USnavy
Sep 17, 2010, 10:03 AM
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http://io9.com/...-the-name-of-science In my experience as a welder OSHA is generally fairly uptight. I cant believe OSHA allows the workers to work off belay, especially while carrying a 30 lbs. haul bag.
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Express
Sep 17, 2010, 12:32 PM
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This is insane! These guys must have a death wish. I had a job running tests on water towers last summer, and safety was always the first concern. We had helmets and full body harnesses with a pair of industrial autolocking biners attached to bungees that you would alternately clip as you ascended the ladder. There was always at least one device holding the person to the tower, and 2 during rests. We would also set up a pulley or hitch to haul and lower gear rather than bang it into everything and risk getting stuck while ascending.
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dynosore
Sep 17, 2010, 1:47 PM
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I find it very hard to believe OSHA approves of their methods.....in the plant I worked in if you went above 6 feet on a ladder you needed a harness. That guy has guts for sure, I'd wear a parachute if I had that job, seriously. Anyone know how low you can deploy at and have time for it to work? A few hundred feet?
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julio412
Sep 17, 2010, 1:51 PM
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First off- I can't see the video( China); but I can tell you this , that;after over 7 years in the industry; there are elevators on MOST(!) towers over 700'. Most tower guys smoke, drink and eat bad, so climbing a a tower beyond say, 400'; leaves a guy all but worthless. Yes; there is a lot of cowboys in the industry, but they disappear after awhile. Before the who-raws begin, I would be willing to bet; this video is a rig. Mario
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bustloose
Sep 17, 2010, 6:35 PM
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there is a reason you don't see their faces - they don't want to get fired. this is either set up to make buddy look hardcore, or he's an idiot and is not "within guidelines" and made this video to show off. safety is always priority one.
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edm
Sep 17, 2010, 7:09 PM
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julio412 wrote: First off- I can't see the video( China); but I can tell you this , that;after over 7 years in the industry; there are elevators on MOST(!) towers over 700'. The video said he rode an elevator to 1600 ft and climbed the remainder.
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cragmasterp
Sep 19, 2010, 4:09 AM
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Pretty cool video, I like the parachute idea after watching this. Ballsy. Hauling that bag like that seems pretty dumb tho.
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milesenoell
Sep 19, 2010, 5:54 AM
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Maybe the vid was shot by base jumpers and the narration was just for fun? It would definitely be tall enough.
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Sep 19, 2010, 1:55 PM
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Thats crazy!
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marc801
Sep 19, 2010, 3:51 PM
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dynosore wrote: That guy has guts for sure, I'd wear a parachute if I had that job, seriously. Anyone know how low you can deploy at and have time for it to work? A few hundred feet? With an immediately deployed chute (meaning the pilot chute is in your hand when you jump and is tossed at the same time), the low limit is somewhere around 350' iirc. So on a 1700' tower, there's plenty of time. The difficulties would be not tumbling if you fall and getting away from the tower and the guy wires before deploying.
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Sep 19, 2010, 5:08 PM
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I doubt that you could “get away” from the guy lines before you open the chute, but you’d have to miss them both before and after you open the chute. Note that at least one climber, Dean Potter, has carried a chute to solo in "the appropriate” circumstances. I am sure the decision for him was an easy one. He was already a base jumper, and he might have done the route sans chute anyway. For him the chute made perfect sense.
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Sep 19, 2010, 7:33 PM
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mheyman wrote: I doubt that you could “get away” from the guy lines before you open the chute, but you’d have to miss them both before and after you open the chute. Note that at least one climber, Dean Potter, has carried a chute to solo in "the appropriate” circumstances. I am sure the decision for him was an easy one. He was already a base jumper, and he might have done the route sans chute anyway. For him the chute made perfect sense. And more importantly he has actually fallen successfully using his basesolo system.
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milesenoell
Sep 20, 2010, 6:54 AM
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cruxstacean wrote: mheyman wrote: I doubt that you could “get away” from the guy lines before you open the chute, but you’d have to miss them both before and after you open the chute. Note that at least one climber, Dean Potter, has carried a chute to solo in "the appropriate” circumstances. I am sure the decision for him was an easy one. He was already a base jumper, and he might have done the route sans chute anyway. For him the chute made perfect sense. And more importantly he has actually fallen successfully using his basesolo system. Pictures?
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USnavy
Sep 20, 2010, 10:41 AM
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milesenoell wrote: cruxstacean wrote: mheyman wrote: I doubt that you could “get away” from the guy lines before you open the chute, but you’d have to miss them both before and after you open the chute. Note that at least one climber, Dean Potter, has carried a chute to solo in "the appropriate” circumstances. I am sure the decision for him was an easy one. He was already a base jumper, and he might have done the route sans chute anyway. For him the chute made perfect sense. And more importantly he has actually fallen successfully using his basesolo system. Pictures? Better. Video. In The Sharp End, there are many clips of him falling.
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spikeddem
Sep 20, 2010, 3:03 PM
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USnavy wrote: milesenoell wrote: cruxstacean wrote: mheyman wrote: I doubt that you could “get away” from the guy lines before you open the chute, but you’d have to miss them both before and after you open the chute. Note that at least one climber, Dean Potter, has carried a chute to solo in "the appropriate” circumstances. I am sure the decision for him was an easy one. He was already a base jumper, and he might have done the route sans chute anyway. For him the chute made perfect sense. And more importantly he has actually fallen successfully using his basesolo system. Pictures? Better. Video. In The Sharp End, there are many clips of him falling. Honestly, I just think it's gimmicky as all hell.
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Urban_Cowboy
Sep 23, 2010, 12:21 PM
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There was a time that being 100% tied into the structure was required. It was later changed to allow "free climbing" (again) because of the time and effort required caused more fatigue and injuries. I've been climbing antenna towers for almost 20 years now, much easier to free climb. I've never been on a tower with an elevator, heck they really only had to climb 168 feet, that's cake. Being on top of a 1768 foot tower is no different than climbing a 300 foot tower, which I've done many times in my career. After all any fall from 50' or above has the same general consequence in the end. The video makes it look worse than it is in real life, the higher you go the better the view.
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