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Masterkush
Oct 11, 2010, 1:25 AM
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I have a big tin of this stuff and ive used it a few times after climbing and it sure does help heal your hands but im worried it will soften them. Its a salve like climb on or JTree but idk if its the right stuff to be using. Anyone ever heard of this stuff or try it out?
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curt
Oct 11, 2010, 6:04 AM
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Masterkush wrote: I have a big tin of this stuff and ive used it a few times after climbing and it sure does help heal your hands but im worried it will soften them. Its a salve like climb on or JTree but idk if its the right stuff to be using. Anyone ever heard of this stuff or try it out? 1) It's good stuff--I've used it before. 2) It will soften your hands--that's what it's supposed to do. 3) It smells just awful--something akin to kerosene. Curt
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Masterkush
Oct 11, 2010, 6:32 AM
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so should i not use it? wont softening my hands up make them more pron to getting cuts on the crag
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Tipton
Oct 13, 2010, 11:57 AM
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I use bag balm all the time. Cuts are no more of an issue than usual. Ever had a flapper? That sucks a heck of a lot more than a cut, so I'll take soft skin over big calluses any day. I'd keep using the bag balm. I also think it's better than the climbing oriented balms/lotions because of price alone. Throw in the fact that it's designed for cow udders and I'm sold. You could also just use vaseline. The main ingredient in most moisturizing salves is petroleum jelly, which does an outstanding job of holding in moisture. I would avoid a lotion, they simply aren't as effective at trapping in moisture as a jelly/salve. You can almost put comfort and moisturizing on a scale, the more obnoxious it is to have on your hands the better it is at moisturizing.
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Urist
Oct 13, 2010, 10:26 PM
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Bag Balm is better than petroleum jelly because it's made with Sheep Lanolin (more information at Buy Bag Balm)
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Masterkush
Oct 14, 2010, 7:09 AM
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Tipton wrote: Throw in the fact that it's designed for cow udders and I'm sold. i LOLd
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Masterkush
Oct 14, 2010, 7:11 AM
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and thanks for the info, ive been and shall keep using it after a climb session, now i just need to wait for my elbow to heal so i can get back on the crag. i think i hyper extended it because i cant straighten it and it hurts like a bitch, quite depressing
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 3:45 AM
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Hey, you should check out sierrasalve.com. Its made by climbers and is 100% natural without any chemicals, animal products or petroleum. sierrasalve.com
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 4:00 PM
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Chinchen wrote: Hey, you should check out Sierra Salve. Its made by climbers and is 100% natural without any chemicals, animal products or petroleum. sierrasalve.com No chemicals? So it's made out of exactly what then? Subatomic particles?
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 4:08 PM
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Virgin olive, avocado, apricot, coconut and V-E oil. Organic herbs like calendula, yarrow, lavendar, etc, beeswax. THAT'S IT! I climb 5 days a week and don't get flappers, cracked joints or dry skin. DOES NOT INCLUDE: -FD&C Color Pigments -Sodium Lauryl Sulfate -DEA (diethanolamine), MEA (monoethanolamine), & TEA (triethanolamine -Triclosan, a pesticide.... -Propylene Glycol -Mineral Oil. A petroleum by-product -DMDM Hydantoin -etc, etc, etc......... Thanks for your interest! Jason
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 5:11 PM
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Chinchen wrote: Virgin olive, avocado, apricot, coconut and V-E oil. Organic herbs like calendula, yarrow, lavendar, etc, beeswax. THAT'S IT! I climb 5 days a week and don't get flappers, cracked joints or dry skin. DOES NOT INCLUDE: -FD&C Color Pigments -Sodium Lauryl Sulfate -DEA (diethanolamine), MEA (monoethanolamine), & TEA (triethanolamine -Triclosan, a pesticide.... -Propylene Glycol -Mineral Oil. A petroleum by-product -DMDM Hydantoin -etc, etc, etc......... Thanks for your interest! Jason SLS is a hella common surfactant. Exactly what concerns do you have about SLS? What's your qualm with FD&C dyes? I'm not really sure why you even list something of those guys...I'm sure it doesn't have HF in it either, but I wasn't really presuming that it did. In any case, I wasn't actually looking for a reply. I was just whining about saying something like "no chemicals" versus saying "no chemical additives" or "all natural."
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 5:20 PM
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I know.... buy some and tell us what you think! Jason
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 5:49 PM
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Chinchen wrote: I know.... buy some and tell us what you think! Jason Will it help me climb harder grades?
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 5:51 PM
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Hell yea! I can climb every day and my skin is left intact. That equals more time on the rock which equals harder climbing. Seriously. By the looks of your profile pic you need it too! P.S. Just bought an ad in Climbing Mag...
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 5:57 PM
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Chinchen wrote: Hell yea! I can climb every day and my skin is left intact. That equals more time on the rock which equals harder climbing. Seriously. By the looks of your profile pic you need it too! P.S. Just bought an ad in Climbing Mag... I'm a little concerned about the added weight though. You haven't experienced any inhibiting effects from the weight disadvantage?
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 6:00 PM
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haha, the extra skin? I just eat less granola, and of course climb without my shirt on....
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 6:03 PM
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Chinchen wrote: haha, the extra skin? I just eat less granola, and of course climb without my shirt on.... no i mean the product itself. i climb without my shirt on too.
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 6:10 PM
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....ITS A 1 OZ TIN.....
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 6:14 PM
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Chinchen wrote: ....ITS A 1 OZ TIN..... haha yeah i know. thats not the problem--obviously i dont climb carrying the weight of the whole tin. i mean like once ive applied it. how long should i let it stay on before i wipe it off so i can climb?
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 6:27 PM
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You will use it after a day of climbing to heal your skin. Wash up and apply a few times in the evening. It will aid in healing your skin before the next day. DONT climb with it on your hands, it is not going to help you hold on to anything....
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 6:32 PM
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Chinchen wrote: You will use it after a day of climbing to heal your skin. Wash up and apply a few times in the evening. It will aid in healing your skin before the next day. DONT climb with it on your hands, it is not going to help you hold on to anything.... Is that cause it's oily or something? Would it cancel out the slippery if I dump some powdered chalk in it and then climb with it? I tried giving up chalk for weight savings, but, i dunno, i came back around after i decided i needed it.
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 6:38 PM
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Such a troll..... I guess you could leave behind a few cams (just run it out) and really slather a bunch of Sierra Salve on and go big!
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 6:49 PM
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i dont use cams.
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Chinchen
Oct 18, 2010, 7:11 PM
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No? Big Bros? Tricams? Nuts? Slinging Chickenheads? Rurps? Bashies? A pad?
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spikeddem
Oct 18, 2010, 7:12 PM
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Chinchen wrote: No? Big Bros? Tricams? Nuts? Slinging Chickenheads? Rurps? Bashies? A pad? quickdraws
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