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TonyB3


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A small sample of ad hominem attacks and insults lobbed by one particular user.

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2442512#2442512


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2442041#2442041


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2442331#2442331


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2441563#2441563


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2441597#2441597


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2441373#2441373

http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2427524#2427524


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2425049#2425049


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2422628#2422628


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2420018#2420018


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2414921#2414921


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=1662878#1662878


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...post=2406916#2406916


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ost=2449669;#2449669


http://www.rockclimbing.com/...ost=2445171;#2445171


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So you are implying that he is an asshole?


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Hes allowed to do that because we've all heard the stories about his ridiculous small stature.



Now the real question . . . . why are you stalking Jay?


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You're going to be sad when this is moved to the appropriate forum.


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No, no I'm not.


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Homebrew sometimes makes bad ideas seem like good ideas.


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moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.


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airscape wrote:
Do you think this might be him trying for the simpattie postz under udder uszernames?

Jay's not THAT desperate for attention.


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sungam wrote:
Homebrew sometimes makes bad ideas seem like good ideas.
I'd like to also point out that every post made by sungam is an ad hominem attack against yours truly. In a Jay-inspired maneuver, I must point out that the similar observation I've made about Sungam is just a simple statement of observation.


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I didn't even need to click a link to know who you were talking about. My advice is to do a mental *plonk* and skip over his posts.


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macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?


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TonyB3 wrote:
macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?

jt512 is the Dr. House of RC.com. He's an asshole, but he's also generally right.


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TonyB3 wrote:
...but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.
But as Shoo points out, spot-on correct more often than not, plus refreshingly honest and often quite funny. The other point you miss is that often it's his targets that are the self-important ones.

So.......
STFU, n00b! Wink


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shoo wrote:
TonyB3 wrote:
macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?

jt512 is the Dr. House of RC.com. He's an asshole, but he's also generally right.

That's a fair comparison, but I prefer to think of him as the Professor Severus Snape of rc.com.

Mind yourself closely, and you'll get quite an education. Mouth off, and you'd better watch out.

GO


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To answer the original question - I don't think attacks (ad hominem or otherwise) by individuals here are anything close to the worst of what goes on here on rc.com.

GO


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GO


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TonyB3 wrote:

A small sample of ad hominem attacks and insults lobbed by one particular user.

So, TonyB3 creates an account and writes a post just because he thing jt512 is an mean. HMMM... something smells fishy. Could TonyB3 be someone else? What site member, or former site member, has an an ax to grind with Jay? I could never prove it, but I would be willing to bet that TonyB3 has posted here before under another name.


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shoo wrote:
TonyB3 wrote:
macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?

jt512 is the Dr. House of RC.com. He's an asshole, but he's also generally right.

healyje, rgold, and a few others here certainly know more than he does, and they convey information without belittling people on a daily basis. The fact that he has a small fan club only reminds me how easily impressed some people are by pseudo intellectualism. I have an IQ in the top 1/2% of the population yet I don't feel the need to belittle others. We all have different gifts. Truly smart people understand their gifts have been given to help others, not to puff up their chest and daily tend to their fragile ego. He added me to his ignore list when I pointed out the paradox of him calling other people close minded. I'm honored to be on it.


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TonyB3 wrote:
macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?

If you really think this gets overlooked you need to lurk harder.


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cracklover wrote:


[image]http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/gallery/2001/07/03/severussnape.jpg[/image]

GO
better..



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TonyB3 wrote:
A small sample of ad hominem attacks and insults lobbed by one particular user.

*Yawn*

Have you tried hardening the fuck up? I hear it works wonders for nancy boys like yourself.


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TonyB3 wrote:
macherry wrote:
moved to suggestions and feedback, a more appropriate forum.

Thank you.

It seems like this has been going on for some time and it gets overlooked. I know a certain amount of good natured ribbing is to be expected, but there is nothing good natured about jt512's posts. In general they are mean spirited and condescending, to say the least.

I just got sick of reading them and would like an honest explanation as to why they are tolerated. I know that as a long time lurker my voice has little weight, but I think a good many others fail to post here because of the caustic nature of this particular user. Is being self important enough to get away with abusing fellow members?

I hope I don't come across as mean spirited or condescending, but have you considered how much you are sounding like the sniveling little cry-baby who routinely gets beat up in the schoolyard?

Curt


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I wonder why i already did know who this was about before even clicking the first link in this thread?

Personally i dont have any problem with him (maybe i'm already plonked?), and i dont think there is any reason to be overly polite to utter idiots, however i would suggest that Jay readjusts his thresholds for "utter idiot" and "overly polite". sometimes his shouting does indeed get rather distracting.

qwert


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qwert wrote:
I wonder why i already did know who this was about before even clicking the first link in this thread?

Personally i dont have any problem with him (maybe i'm already plonked?), and i dont think there is any reason to be overly polite to utter idiots, however i would suggest that Jay readjusts his thresholds for "utter idiot" and "overly polite". sometimes his shouting does indeed get rather distracting.

qwert

I think we have indeed been seeing a kinder, gentler jt over the last 2 months or so. Not too long ago he would have been trolling the shit out of this and other recent threads where he is being openly attacked.

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