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That is so very little information.... But off the top I'd say not to use rock climbing gear but instead used osha approved fall arresting equipment.


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Lbrombach wrote:
That is so very little information.... But off the top I'd say not to use rock climbing gear but instead used osha approved fall arresting equipment.

Why not?


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We are not required to have safety gear at work, but I would like to add some protection. I have an 11mm fixed rope next to my ladder, and using a petzl shunt as a fall protecter.

My questions are:

1. What kind of safety line should I use, and how long should it be from my harness to the shunt?

2. And, can anyone explain or send a video showing how I would transfer weight from the shunt (should I fall) to an ATF device- which I would use to rappel to the ground ( 25-40 feet)?

I have a little experience, but it has been a while.

Thanks.

Since roofers, perhaps, have one of the most dangerous jobs there is, I highly recommend you use safety equipment. So, it's good that you are thinking about it.

However, I am not going to explain HOW to do it over the internet. This should be taught in person from someone qualified or at the very least read up on the equipment and techniques from published books.

With that said, a fixed line (preferable a static line), a harness and a shunt (with locking carabiner) should be enough for protecting you at height. Transfering over to a ATC is also very simple but once again, should be taught in person.

Josh

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I missed the part where he said he was a roofer?? Anyway, industrial fall arresting gear is much tougher and would stand up to jobsite abuse much better than recreational climbing gear. They also have nifty devices that are kinda like an autobelay..- there's a cable on a reel that goes in and out as needed, allowing freedom of movement with both hands available for working, but the device locks off if you fall. It's also much smaller than the autobelays I see at the gym. But it's hard to say what would work best, since we (I, at least) have no idea whats going on on the ladder. Is he hanging out on it all day? On and off constantly? Working in teams or all alone in remote corners of the world? Not that I necessarily have the answer, but there is a bunch of industrial fall arresting gear that's made to minimize the fuss and minimize the impact on productivity.


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Well if you already knew the answer why did you ask the question?


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Acer211 wrote:
1. What kind of safety line should I use, and how long should it be from my harness to the shunt?

2. And, can anyone explain or send a video showing how I would transfer weight from the shunt (should I fall) to an ATF device- which I would use to rappel to the ground ( 25-40 feet)?

I gotta agree with the others. This is not the place to get instruction on these types of things. Especially for jobs outside of climbing.

Sorry.


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Acer211 wrote:
"I have no idea whats going on on the ladder. Is he hanging out on it all day? On and off constantly? Working in teams or all alone in remote corners of the world? Not that I necessarily have the answer, but there is a bunch of industrial fall arresting gear that's made to minimize the fuss and minimize the impact on productivity.

I run a small business that works around houses/condos all day, I work by myself almost always. Occasionally I need to be up two or three stories on a ladder. For those occasions I would like to be able to be safe. I am definitely going with climbing gear, as I might like to get into rapping and I already own some gear.

1st paragragh ... WTF ???

2nd Have you considered how are you going to anchor the rope?
You don't need a line between you and the shunt. If you do use one a dynamic rope works as a line between you and shunt. There are better options if you check out via ferrata equipment

For anchor/top rope a semi static is a good rope to use. You can use a dynamic rope also, even a static. Each have their advantages and disadvantages.

The equipment I mentioned above will work but each selection has its risks and unless you know what they are your playing a fools game.

Moving from shunt to ATC is simple but should be taught in person, as was already mentioned.

Are you a satellite dish installer?


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Home Depot has a roofer's safety kit for $99.


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http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/nov/18/squad-attempting-to-rescue-man-dangling-in-25-up/

A little late in this post,but went with a Petzl Shunt and professional climbing rope and a Black Diamond harness. For the last two years it has worked really well, and seems like it will last for many years if I take care of it. thanks for,your help guys, and for taking my question seriously.


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Acer211 wrote:
A little late in this post,but went with a Petzl Shunt and professional climbing rope and a Black Diamond harness. For the last two years it has worked really well, and seems like it will last for many years if I take care of it. thanks for,your help guys, and for taking my question seriously.
Then why did you delete so many of your posts, including the original question?


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