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"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.


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Getting brained by a can of this is a bad hominy attack.


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drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

I have been offended by this post.

I suggest a 10, no...make that a 12 day banz. Yes, that will do nicely.


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Please permabanz dribble for not making a suggestion and camhead for not making a funny.

That is my suggestion.


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justroberto wrote:
Please permabanz dribble for not making a suggestion and camhead for not making a funny.

That is my suggestion.
Drivel gave feedback.

That is my feedback.


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drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.


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meatbomz wrote:
drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.

whatever. Bald people don't know what they're talking about.


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meatbomz wrote:
drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.

you're crazier than enigma.


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drivel wrote:
meatbomz wrote:
drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.

you're crazier than enigma.

Now yore just talking crazy talk... nobody is a biger nut case than enigma.


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camhead wrote:
meatbomz wrote:
drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.

whatever. Bald people don't know what they're talking about.

exactly


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drivel wrote:
meatbomz wrote:
drivel wrote:
"shut the fuck up" is not an ad hominem attack. "why don't you shoot yourself in the face" is not an ad hominem attack. "you are so fucking wrong that I am out of witty things to say" is not an ad hominem attack."

"you are a drunk and a slut" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a child molester" is an ad hominem attack. "you are a liar and a psycho" is an ad hominem attack. "you are crazier than enigma" is an ad hominem attack.

ad hominem attack are directed towards the person's character and not their argument or assertion. telling someone that they're wrong, even if you use grown-up words, is not an ad hominem attack. plz make note of it.

Argumentum Ad Hominem is where you attempt to discredit the validity of another's position or assertion by attacking the person's characters or beliefs rather than the position or assertion itself.

Just insulting someone isn't an ad hominem. You have to attack them with the purpose of discrediting their position or statement.

yore rong because you're crazier than enigma.

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I think people use the latins to make their posts seem credible.

If the thread title was "People should stop telling other people that they are cunts" it would not have provoked the scussion.

To be honest I thought an Ad hominem was something you break to turn a girl into a woman.


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I think people use the latins to make their posts seem credible.

If the thread title was "People should stop telling other people that they are cunts" it would not have provoked the scussion.

while it's true that I sometimes wade in to browbeat people about what I perceive to be misogynistic insults, that's not what this thread was about. if I called you a blood fased cunt, that STILL wouldn't be an ad hominem attack.

if you had a vagina, and I said, shut up cunt, how could you possibly know your way around a force diagram? (because you're a woman, your rong) THEN it would be an ad hominem attack.

editing is weak, but in case it wasn't clear, I'm fine with cursing out people who are acting like fucking morons. I don't necessarily think that's undesirable forum behavior. and sometimes jt gets pretty intense, but I can only think of one occasion where I thought he was acting out of left field.


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drivel wrote:
airscape wrote:
I think people use the latins to make their posts seem credible.

If the thread title was "People should stop telling other people that they are cunts" it would not have provoked the scussion.

while it's true that I sometimes wade in to browbeat people about what I perceive to be misogynistic insults, that's not what this thread was about. if I called you a blood fased cunt, that STILL wouldn't be an ad hominem attack.

if you had a vagina, and I said, shut up cunt, how could you possibly know your way around a force diagram? (because you're a woman, your rong) THEN it would be an ad hominem attack.

editing is weak, but in case it wasn't clear, I'm fine with cursing out people who are acting like fucking morons. I don't necessarily think that's undesirable forum behavior. and sometimes jt gets pretty intense, but I can only think of one occasion where I thought he was acting out of left field.

More specifically, ad feminam. It's ok that you don't know this though - being a woman and all.


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If ewe guys were more well red, you wood know their are a lot of BET jerks who use add homophone attacks, two.


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camhead wrote:
If ewe guys were more well red, you wood know their are a lot of BET jerks who use add homophone attacks, two.

it's a homophone!


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drivel wrote:
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If ewe guys were more well red, you wood know their are a lot of BET jerks who use add homophone attacks, two.

it's a homophone!

A blackberry is a pain in the ass, so I classify that as a homophone.


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airscape wrote:
drivel wrote:
camhead wrote:
If ewe guys were more well red, you wood know their are a lot of BET jerks who use add homophone attacks, two.

it's a homophone!

A blackberry is a pain in the ass, so I classify that as a homophone.

now who's being a cunt?


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airscape wrote:

A blackberry is a pain in the ass...

well, DUH, Blackberries are a pain in the ass. They have thorns. You should stick with cucumbers or carrots if you're into that sort of thing.


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camhead wrote:
airscape wrote:

A blackberry is a pain in the ass...

well, DUH, Blackberries are a pain in the ass. They have thorns. You should stick with cucumbers or carrots if you're into that sort of thing.

That just reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI


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airscape wrote:
drivel wrote:
camhead wrote:
If ewe guys were more well red, you wood know their are a lot of BET jerks who use add homophone attacks, two.

it's a homophone!

A blackberry is a pain in the ass, so I classify that as a homophone.
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