Perhaps such people shouldn't spend so much time on an internet chat forum. Or just lightenharden the fuck up.

Pay attention. We're not talking about current posters like me who are occasionally whiny. We're talking about people who've left rc.com. People who (unlike me) actually have worthwhile stuff to contribute.

GO

That's the problem with the lack of editorial oversight.

The "user base" consists overwhelmingly of n00bs and career incompetents whose primary use of the site is to post bad and frequently dangerous advice to other n00bs and career incompetents on topics in which they have neither understanding nor experience. Since this site also sits on one of the nicer bits of internet real estate, it has earned a high-profile brand (given how small the market niche is), but that brand is for idiocy and incompetence.

At the moment, the only corrective to that sad state of affairs, is the fear that one's anonymous avatar may get publicly ridiculed by Jay or Curt.

Ironically, the BET slums are one of the least ridiculous environments here, largely because they post about nothing but baking, gardening, and pets.

I appreciate the misery of being a mod, but I am not a fan of the idea that policy here should be driven by the libidinal impulses of the loudest sheep. That's not the only model for a successful site.

Stalk much?

Has anyone thought of asking people like John Gill, John Long, or Rich Goldstone why they don't post on here as often as they used to? They are all still pretty prevalent on other sites.

There has been a bit of back and forth about who ran off these people who have the potential to provide a much higher signal to noise ratio than the rest of us. Was it the incessant noob yammering? Was it the nasty posts?

I know and climb with several people who fit in the category above, who left around the same time, and I've talked to them about why they drifted away.

Has anyone thought of asking people like John Gill, John Long, or Rich Goldstone why they don't post on here as often as they used to? They are all still pretty prevalent on other sites.

my thought on that is that their highly experienced answers get quickly drowned out by noobs answering incorrectly and the noobs asking do not know the difference. It is probably not worth their time to write well thought out responses only for someone to ignore it.

why should Rich write a great long post about anchor technique only to have some gumby that took a TR lesson once go Yea well any 3 pieces and a cordo you're good to go! noob goes ah that is way easier to read and apply than what Rich said so i'll go with that.

Pay attention. We're not talking about current posters like me who are occasionally whiny. We're talking about people who've left rc.com. People who (perhaps unlike me) actually have interesting and worthwhile climbing content to contribute.

GO

Rich was (and still is, when he posts) a great example of the star system working. If you go search his posts, almost all of them got very high reviews.

Not that someone like him would care about stars, but perhaps if there was some way of making it more obvious that ALL of his contributions are valuable, more of the noise would get ignored. Making posts searchable by rating, having a list of toprated users, some sort of "gold star on the forehead" icon under someone's avatar– any of these things would really help.

My post in no way implied I was talking about you. You did. My point was rather simple: it's a fucking internet chat forum. You want serious? Go to JuniorRepublicanDouchbags.com.

URL tags, NOOB!

i'm NOT clicking that.

My post in no way implied I was talking about you. You did. My point was rather simple: it's a fucking internet chat forum. You want serious? Go to JuniorRepublicanDouchbags.com.

The climbing world doesn't turn fast enough to provide a constant stream of fresh topics to discuss. And despite Majid's beliefs, we don't need to beat ourselves senseless over every possible rescue scenario that will never happen. With the exception of injuries and accidents, and reports of whatever pebble the V18 cockroaches are currently crushing, you could sum up the year of new developments in climbing in an annual flyer that you could read cover to cover during your next bowel movement.

This place is nothing more than a chat forum of people with a loosely connected common interest who are looking for some entertainment. It's nothing more, I'm sorry if you thought it was.

my thought on that is that their highly experienced answers get quickly drowned out by noobs answering incorrectly and the noobs asking do not know the difference. It is probably not worth their time to write well thought out responses only for someone to ignore it.

why should Rich write a great long post about anchor technique only to have some gumby that took a TR lesson once go Yea well any 3 pieces and a cordo you're good to go! noob goes ah that is way easier to read and apply than what Rich said so i'll go with that.

Believe it or not, all the noise notwithstanding, this is the number 1 site on the internet for bleeding edge discussion of technical climbing issues.

Not.

it's tempting to nominate k.l.k and tripperjim

Jay

Has anyone thought of asking people like John Gill, John Long, or Rich Goldstone why they don't post on here as often as they used to? They are all still pretty prevalent on other sites.

skimbitch.