So link some recent examples that we could take over to st or ukc and persuade the crowds there to revise their judgment of rc.

BTW, I think their judgment of rc.com is accurate. The fact that buried in the muck there are gems is not inconsistent. Neither disproves the other.

rc.com is a very big tent, with a lot of different things going on.

GO

Circus tent by the sound of things.

Everyone love the circus.....unless they're scared of clowns.

Are you kidding? I'm not familiar with UKC, but on supertopo there is zero interest in such stuff. Negative interest, actually - it gets ridiculed. Even when the people talking are gear engineers, mathematicians, and statisticians.

Yes, that sort of thing could happen here for sure.

Not coincidentally, he is also one of the few st regulars who still posts here fairly often. And my guess is, that clock's ticking down.

Why would you say this?

Heres a current example:
http://www.supertopo.com/...ricane-Drill-Intrest

Are you kidding? I'm not familiar with UKC, but on supertopo there is zero interest in such stuff. Negative interest, actually - it gets ridiculed. Even when the people talking are gear engineers, mathematicians, and statisticians.

I can think of one such conversation there, when many of the participants who helped work up the testing and analysis behind the new John Long anchors book were trying to present some of their findings. Here such a thing might be greeted with too much attention by too many noobs, but there it was ridiculed, considered stupid, pointless, and uninteresting. Any time another thread along those lines has started it's been shouted down quickly.

Calling attention to such threads here on rc.com would only be more proof of rc.com's idiocy.

As for recent examples - I haven't actually followed anything recently. But the Alien threads and the anchor thread were examples.

GO

Ah the Sliding X thread. The knob at it's very best and very worst at the same time.

Worst case scenario, the SP/VCF meltdown.

Bias, is any moderators worst enemy, this is why I am not a moderator myself...

No, that's not why.

hahahahahaha...interesting...

I wonder if you could even wrap your head around that statement...to call it a meltdown, as if there was a relationship to begin with, I will try and help because your statement is disingenuous, if not nieve...VCF was spawned because SP banned about 15 or 20 members for simply having opinions...it was a war from day one, not a friendly relationship...SP is nothing but a hiking and photography site now, it's not a coincidence that 90% of the people banned were climbers, and 90% of the moderators are hikers...there's also a nice divide along generational lines, most of those banned were of gen x, most, if not all the moderators are baby boomers...the banned included both liberal and neo-con alike (although they wish to blame that divide on the discourse)...it is a fundamental difference in how people see the world and how they interact with each other. SP and it's admins are not even mountaineers or climbers, they are a pile of fail and the place is run for profit on the backs of those who contribute material...They protect the weak who lack coping skills and gumption while punishing those who speak up like they have a pair. We called them on it and they banned us with much bias...they allowed certain personallities (their friends) to continue to mouth off and held others to a different standard, those not even involved saw it and many removed their contributions because of it without ever being banned. In fact the owners have been sued in the past for internet shenanigans involving google and profit, there is no doubt their info places 1st in google for a reason, this is why they hide their identity, in fact they are not even mountaineers, hiker or climbers and their head technical admin exemplifies this fact by his one and only hobby, flytrap growing...They have gone as far as placing ads all over their 404 error page so those who are banned, now including many hotspots around the country, give them more ad impression revenue instead of proper technical information...they also banned people for what they say on other websites and forums after explicitly telling the membership population they would not do such a thing. So if you have an account there and value your content, be careful how to reply to this post...

Bias, is any moderators worst enemy, this is why I am not a moderator myself, I know I cannot be unbiased. If your membership population smells bias in the administration practices, your toast, plain and simple. VCF (virtualcampfire.org) tries to minimize this by not even moderating, what you say is subject to ridicule as much as the next guy and it all stays for posterity...yeah, it may be a dirty hole at times, but when the real conversations happen, they are a thousand times more interesting, enlightening and colorful than anything pooped out of a place like SP where more posts have been deleted than remain and the most interesting and colorful members are banned because some pussy can't handle some harsh words...

I wonder if you could even wrap your head around that statement...to call it a meltdown, as if there was a relationship to begin with, I will try and help because your statement is disingenuous, if not nieve...VCF was spawned because SP banned about 15 or 20 members for simply having opinions...it was a war from day one, not a friendly relationship...SP is nothing but a hiking and photography site now, it's not a coincidence that 90% of the people banned were climbers, and 90% of the moderators are hikers...there's also a nice divide along generational lines, most of those banned were of gen x, most, if not all the moderators are baby boomers...the banned included both liberal and neo-con alike (although they wish to blame that divide on the discourse)...it is a fundamental difference in how people see the world and how they interact with each other. SP and it's admins are not even mountaineers or climbers, they are a pile of fail and the place is run for profit on the backs of those who contribute material...They protect the weak who lack coping skills and gumption while punishing those who speak up like they have a pair. We called them on it and they banned us with much bias...they allowed certain personallities (their friends) to continue to mouth off and held others to a different standard, those not even involved saw it and many removed their contributions because of it without ever being banned. In fact the owners have been sued in the past for internet shenanigans involving google and profit, there is no doubt their info places 1st in google for a reason, this is why they hide their identity, in fact they are not even mountaineers, hiker or climbers and their head technical admin exemplifies this fact by his one and only hobby, flytrap growing...They have gone as far as placing ads all over their 404 error page so those who are banned, now including many hotspots around the country, give them more ad impression revenue instead of proper technical information...they also banned people for what they say on other websites and forums after explicitly telling the membership population they would not do such a thing. So if you have an account there and value your content, be careful how to reply to this post...

Bias, is any moderators worst enemy, this is why I am not a moderator myself, I know I cannot be unbiased. If your membership population smells bias in the administration practices, your toast, plain and simple. VCF (virtualcampfire.org) tries to minimize this by not even moderating, what you say is subject to ridicule as much as the next guy and it all stays for posterity...yeah, it may be a dirty hole at times, but when the real conversations happen, they are a thousand times more interesting, enlightening and colorful than anything pooped out of a place like SP where more posts have been deleted than remain and the most interesting and colorful members are banned because some pussy can't handle some harsh words...

hahahahahaha...interesting...

I wonder if you could even wrap your head around that statement...to call it a meltdown, as if there was a relationship to begin with, I will try and help because your statement is disingenuous, if not nieve...VCF was spawned because SP banned about 15 or 20 members for simply having opinions...it was a war from day one, not a friendly relationship...SP is nothing but a hiking and photography site now, it's not a coincidence that 90% of the people banned were climbers, and 90% of the moderators are hikers...there's also a nice divide along generational lines, most of those banned were of gen x, most, if not all the moderators are baby boomers...the banned included both liberal and neo-con alike (although they wish to blame that divide on the discourse)...it is a fundamental difference in how people see the world and how they interact with each other. SP and it's admins are not even mountaineers or climbers, they are a pile of fail and the place is run for profit on the backs of those who contribute material...They protect the weak who lack coping skills and gumption while punishing those who speak up like they have a pair. We called them on it and they banned us with much bias...they allowed certain personallities (their friends) to continue to mouth off and held others to a different standard, those not even involved saw it and many removed their contributions because of it without ever being banned. In fact the owners have been sued in the past for internet shenanigans involving google and profit, there is no doubt their info places 1st in google for a reason, this is why they hide their identity, in fact they are not even mountaineers, hiker or climbers and their head technical admin exemplifies this fact by his one and only hobby, flytrap growing...They have gone as far as placing ads all over their 404 error page so those who are banned, now including many hotspots around the country, give them more ad impression revenue instead of proper technical information...they also banned people for what they say on other websites and forums after explicitly telling the membership population they would not do such a thing. So if you have an account there and value your content, be careful how to reply to this post...

Bias, is any moderators worst enemy, this is why I am not a moderator myself, I know I cannot be unbiased. If your membership population smells bias in the administration practices, your toast, plain and simple. VCF (virtualcampfire.org) tries to minimize this by not even moderating, what you say is subject to ridicule as much as the next guy and it all stays for posterity...yeah, it may be a dirty hole at times, but when the real conversations happen, they are a thousand times more interesting, enlightening and colorful than anything pooped out of a place like SP where more posts have been deleted than remain and the most interesting and colorful members are banned because some pussy can't handle some harsh words...

If theree's something we should know about, pleas use the 'report this post' button. Or is there another reason to bump?

He was post whoring...

Banz him! Banz him now!