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enigma


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Now the medical community has some respect for acupuncture, Which has helped many people with joints, migraines, injuries, increasing blood flow, fertilty , injuries, stiff necks, sleeping problems, and detox the body.

Myself, I have had good results with stiff necks, pinched nerves, headaches. and some tension areas.
The only problem is its temporary and often not covered in insurance plans. So what has it done positive or negative for your injuries, or medical issues?


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enigma wrote:
Now the medical community has some respect for acupuncture . . .

We can only hope you're wrong about that.

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Myself, I have had good results with stiff necks, pinched nerves, headaches. and some tension areas.

As you can see, the placebo effect is real.

Jay


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if its not considered real medicine why would the Chinese be doing it for 3000+ years
would rather get the needles in me then have some legal drug dealer throwing this and that at me to mask the pain....i have had back pain for years and granted its never gone forever but if i can get a needle someplace and it gets rid of it for awhile its a lot better then the Dr saying there is nothing that i can find wrong here take this muscle relaxer or pain med....



not really sure why some people have their heads up their ass and think that western medicine is the only way to deal with things...next thing people will say is that massage doesnt really work with getting rid of knots in your muscle


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ubu


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clymber wrote:
if its not considered real medicine why would the Chinese be doing it for 3000+ years
would rather get the needles in me then have some legal drug dealer throwing this and that at me to mask the pain....i have had back pain for years and granted its never gone forever but if i can get a needle someplace and it gets rid of it for awhile its a lot better then the Dr saying there is nothing that i can find wrong here take this muscle relaxer or pain med....

not really sure why some people have their heads up their ass and think that western medicine is the only way to deal with things...next thing people will say is that massage doesnt really work with getting rid of knots in your muscle

For the same reason Chinese have believed for thousands of years that keeping a lump of jade around will make them live longer.


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clymber wrote:
if its not considered real medicine why would the Chinese be doing it for 3000+ years

I don't know. Why have people been praying to non-existent gods for millenia?

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would rather get the needles in me then have some legal drug dealer throwing this and that at me to mask the pain....i have had back pain for years and granted its never gone forever but if i can get a needle someplace and it gets rid of it for awhile its a lot better then the Dr saying there is nothing that i can find wrong here take this muscle relaxer or pain med....

Well, you're free to make that choice, and if you're susceptible to the placebo effect, as you seem to be, then maybe it's a good choice.

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not really sure why some people have their heads up their ass and think that western medicine is the only way to deal with things...next thing people will say is that massage doesnt really work with getting rid of knots in your muscle

Not really sure why some people are so gullible that they fall for sham treatments that have proved repeatedly to be no better than placebo, and that have no plausible biological mechanism. Next thing you're going to say is that homeopathy really works.

Jay


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johnwesely


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clymber wrote:
next thing people will say is that massage doesnt really work with getting rid of knots in your muscle

Except massage is shown to actually work.


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Various experiments (acupuncture with real needles, but in the "wrong" places, acupuncture with fake needles) have demonstrated that acupuncture is placebo - no more, no less. So, given the well-established evidence that expensive placebos work better than cheap ones, I suggest you go out and find the most expensive acupuncturist you can.






Or, y'know, take the advice of a real doctor.


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clymber wrote:
if its not considered real medicine why would the Chinese be doing it for 3000+ years

The Chinese also eat ground up rhinoceros horn, convinced it'll help them in the bedroom ('cos, y'know, it looks like a...)

Just because it's always been done that way doesn't mean it's not very, very stupid.


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clymber wrote:
if its not considered real medicine why would the Chinese be doing it for 3000+ years
would rather get the needles in me then have some legal drug dealer throwing this and that at me to mask the pain....i have had back pain for years and granted its never gone forever but if i can get a needle someplace and it gets rid of it for awhile its a lot better then the Dr saying there is nothing that i can find wrong here take this muscle relaxer or pain med....



not really sure why some people have their heads up their ass and think that western medicine is the only way to deal with things...next thing people will say is that massage doesnt really work with getting rid of knots in your muscle
Same reason stupid/misled people drink water that "remembers" a flower petal that touched it.


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