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Hi Climbers!

I am conducting a study for my Environmental Ethics class concerning rock climbers.

My main objective is to determine what factors guide a rock climbers decision to climb mainly trad or sport. I also want to find out what role, if any, does a climber's environmental ethic play in making this decision.

I have drafted a brief survey on the topic and would greatly appreciate it if some fellow craggers took the time to fill it out. I am attaching the survey as a word file as well as copying it below (the format of the copied version is a bit off). Feel free to fill out the survey and email me the file - drayh8@rockclimbing.com.

I wish I could give you guys some money as incentive but I'm a broke grad student..

Thanks soooo much for your participation!

Dustin

Survey:

Rock Climbing Survey


1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? ______

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[ ] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[ ] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[ ] once per month
[ ] twice per month
[ ] once per week
[ ] 2-3 times per week
[ ] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[ ] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[ ] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[ ] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[ ] self-reliance/independence
[ ] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[ ] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[ ] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[ ] safety aspect
[ ] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[ ] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[ ] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[ ] more accessible in terms of locations
[ ] no one to learn trad technique from
[ ] easily identifiable routes
[ ] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[ ] yes
[ ] no

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[ ] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[ ] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[ ] some college, business or trade school
[ ] college graduate
[ ] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Bolts on a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 1 2 3 4 5
Chalk use 1 2 3 4 5
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 1 2 3 4 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4






10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4



11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4
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I hope you realize the time that I invested into this thing:

1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? _5_

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[ ] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[x] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[ ] once per month
[ ] twice per month
[ ] once per week
[x] 2-3 times per week
[ ] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[ ] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[x] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[ ] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[ ] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[ ] self-reliance/independence
[ ] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[ ] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[ ] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[] safety aspect
[] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[2] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[1] more accessible in terms of locations
[] no one to learn trad technique from
[3] easily identifiable routes
[] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[x] yes
[ ] no

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[x] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[ ] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[ ] some college, business or trade school
[x] college graduate
[ ] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Bolts on a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 1 2 3 4 5
Chalk use 1 2 3 4 5
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 1 2 3 4 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[x] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4






10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




[] 1
[x] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4



11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[] 1
[x] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4


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drayh8 wrote:
Hi Climbers!

I am conducting a study for my Environmental Ethics class concerning rock climbers.

My main objective is to determine what factors guide a rock climbers decision to climb mainly trad or sport. I also want to find out what role, if any, does a climber's environmental ethic play in making this decision.

I have drafted a brief survey on the topic and would greatly appreciate it if some fellow craggers took the time to fill it out. I am attaching the survey as a word file as well as copying it below (the format of the copied version is a bit off). Feel free to fill out the survey and email me the file - drayh8@rockclimbing.com.

I wish I could give you guys some money as incentive but I'm a broke grad student..

Thanks soooo much for your participation!

Dustin

Survey:

Rock Climbing Survey


1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? __12___

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[X] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[ ] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[ ] once per month
[ ] twice per month
[X] once per week
[ ] 2-3 times per week
[ ] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[X] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[ ] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[2] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[1] self-reliance/independence
[ ] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[ ] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[3] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[ ] safety aspect
[ ] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[ ] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[ ] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[ ] more accessible in terms of locations
[ ] no one to learn trad technique from
[ ] easily identifiable routes
[ ] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[ ] yes
[ ] no

---It Depends---

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[ ] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[X] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[ ] some college, business or trade school
[X] college graduate
[ ] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 2
Bolts on a climb ---It Depends---
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 2
Chalk use 3
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 2


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4


Uh.... what? Sorry, I don't turn on my whole brain when I come to rc.com. Depending on the context, I am a 2, 3, or 4.



10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




Good grief. I dunno, somewhere in the middle.


11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[ ] 1
[X] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4

On many of these questions, the questions just miss the boat entirely about how I think about stuff. But whatever, it's your survey.

GO


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Your survey has too many questions and too many answers per question. Research shows that most people won't do a survey like this if they figure it will take more than 60 seconds. Simplify and come back.


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If you can narrow it down to 10 questions, then you can do it in surveymonkey.com for free.

It's easy to build.
It has all of the flexibility you need (except for the branching.
It's easy for users to take (they don't have to send you a file).
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drayh8 wrote:
6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[ ] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[ ] $1,000 or more

There is only one answer to this for anyone who really climbs.


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The questions asked here seem to have very little to do with environmental impacts of climbers. Bolts and fixed gear are miniscule compared to the compaction of soil, girdling of trees, changes in soil ph around bouldering areas, disruption of wildlife habits in a cliff environment.....and let's not forget the stuff we really don't like to think about:

- spurring on production of climbing gear and material that has no intrisic value to our environment
- All that fossil fuel we spend on climbing trips...which again has no real value.

In my experience climbers have a fairly low environmental outlook. They get pissed off when cliffs are closed so birds of prey can nest. They refuse to stay on marked approach trails, they insist on having fires while camping, the drive to the cliff in their gas guzzling SUV, they leave garbage all over the place. Very few climbers really understand what their role is in the environmental scheme of things.

We all have an impact when we go to the cliff. Cliff ecologies are inherently fragile, and do not support a large mass of people trampling around the base or the top regularly. Soil compaction is huge, and very hard to avoid. There's a reason why nothing grows at the base of popular crags, and it's not because climbers have cut it or removed it...it's that we have made that little ecosystem inhospitable for vegetation.

And yes, I am a climber, but at least I do it knowing I am doing it, and I don't have this false sense of righteousness because I bought a Patagonia shirt that gives 2% back to the environment.

If climbers really cared about the cliff ecology, they would:
- stay on marked approach and descent trails
-If there were no marked trails at their cliff, they would advocate for them
-They would regularly patrol their cliff for trash and carry it out
-They would carpool to the crag (novel concept)
-They would camp on durable surfaces and refrain from having social campfires.

Seriously, drilling a 3/8 inch hole into the rock has nothing to do with environmental impacts.


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1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? __6___

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[ ] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[X] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[ ] once per month
[X] twice per month
[ ] once per week
[ ] 2-3 times per week
[ ] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[X] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[1] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[ ] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[2] self-reliance/independence
[3] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[ ] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[ ] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[ ] safety aspect
[ ] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[ ] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[ ] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[ ] more accessible in terms of locations
[ ] no one to learn trad technique from
[ ] easily identifiable routes
[ ] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[ ] yes
[X] no

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[ ] $500-$749
[X] $750-$999
[ ] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[ ] some college, business or trade school
[ ] college graduate
[X] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 1 (2) 3 4 5
Bolts on a climb 1 2 3 (4) 5
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 1 2 (3) 4 5
Chalk use 1 2 3 (4) 5
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 1 2 3 (4) 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[X] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4






10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




[ ] 1
[X] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4



11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[ ] 1
[X] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4


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drayh8 wrote:
Hi Climbers!

I am conducting a study for my Environmental Ethics class concerning rock climbers.

My main objective is to determine what factors guide a rock climbers decision to climb mainly trad or sport. I also want to find out what role, if any, does a climber's environmental ethic play in making this decision.
I don't think environmental ethic plays much role. Especially if you look at just how much impact trad climbing actually has, not much different from sport actually.


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I have drafted a brief survey on the topic and would greatly appreciate it if some fellow craggers took the time to fill it out. I am attaching the survey as a word file as well as copying it below (the format of the copied version is a bit off). Feel free to fill out the survey and email me the file - drayh8@rockclimbing.com.

I wish I could give you guys some money as incentive but I'm a broke grad student..

Thanks soooo much for your participation!

Dustin

Survey:

Rock Climbing Survey


1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? __26 years____

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?


[ ] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?
3 to four days a week average.


4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

I'm a climber, sometimes that means sport routes, sometime trad routes. Really depend on the climbing area, local ethics, and the cliff's features.

[ ] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

I climb trad routes because they are fun, aesthetic, and challenging.


4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

I climb sport routes because they are fun, aesthetic, and challenging.

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

I don't see bolted sport routes as any more or less environmentally damaging. Same with Ethics and aesthetics.



6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

More than 20,000 USD

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?


[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree


8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 3
Bolts on a climb 3
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 3
Chalk use 3
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic

I fall somewhere in the middle.


10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


Somewhere in the middle

11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


Somewhere in the middle.


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drayh8 wrote:
Hi Climbers!

I am conducting a study for my Environmental Ethics class concerning rock climbers.

My main objective is to determine what factors guide a rock climbers decision to climb mainly trad or sport. I also want to find out what role, if any, does a climber's environmental ethic play in making this decision.

I have drafted a brief survey on the topic and would greatly appreciate it if some fellow craggers took the time to fill it out. I am attaching the survey as a word file as well as copying it below (the format of the copied version is a bit off). Feel free to fill out the survey and email me the file - drayh8@rockclimbing.com.

I wish I could give you guys some money as incentive but I'm a broke grad student..

Thanks soooo much for your participation!

Dustin

Survey:

Rock Climbing Survey


1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? ___3__

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[x] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[ ] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[] once per month
[x] twice per month
[ ] once per week
[ ] 2-3 times per week
[ ] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[ ] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[x] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[ ] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[ ] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[ ] self-reliance/independence
[ ] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[ ] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[ ] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[ ] safety aspect
[ ] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[ ] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[ ] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[ ] more accessible in terms of locations
[ ] no one to learn trad technique from
[ ] easily identifiable routes
[ ] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[ ] yes
[ ] no
Maybe

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[x] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[ ] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[x] some college, business or trade school
[ ] college graduate
[ ] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Bolts on a climb 1 2 3 4 5
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 1 2 3 4 5
Chalk use 1 2 3 4 5
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 1 2 3 4 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[x] 4






10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[x] 3
[ ] 4



11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[ ] 1
[x] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4


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Didn't seem like I could answer "both" for sport and trad so I went with what I prefer. I actually do both equally. Started to lose me a bit at the end sorry... felt like ethics class all over again... boring, but i see what you're getting at.

1. Approximately how many years have you been rock climbing? ___6___

2. In which medium were you introduced to climbing?

[x ] Synthetic (climbing wall)
[ ] Outdoors

3. In a given year, on average, how often do you climb outdoors?

[ ] once or twice a year
[ ] once every other month
[ ] once per month
[ ] twice per month
[ ] once per week
[ ] 2-3 times per week
[x] 4 + times per week

4. When climbing outdoors, would you consider yourself predominately a trad climber (placing gear as you ascend and later removing), a sport climber (clipping your gear into fixed bolts as you ascend), or other (bouldering, top rope, aid, etc.)?

[x] trad climber (proceed to 4a.)
[ ] sport climber (proceed to 4b.)
[ ] other (skip to 5)

4a. If you answered trad in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations). [How can I simplify these instructions?].

[ ] minimal level of impact (clean-climbing)
[1] more challenging/thrilling style
[ ] social pressures
[ ] self-reliance/independence
[ ] lack of ideal bolted routes in your region
[2] more freedom in route selection
[ ] less crowded crags
[3] more aesthetically pleasing areas
[ ] other (please specify): ________________________





4b. If you answered sport in question #3, please describe your motivation by ranking the top three reasons you choose to climb this way (mark numbers 1, 2, 3 for first, second, and third most important motivations).

[ ] safety aspect
[ ] lack of confidence in ability to place gear
[ ] not an experienced enough climber for trad
[ ] more economically reasonable (full trad rack is expensive)
[ ] more accessible in terms of locations
[ ] no one to learn trad technique from
[ ] easily identifiable routes
[ ] more comfortable making dynamic moves/climbing harder grades
[ ] other (please specify): ____________________________

5. In your opinion, do the overall benefits of climbing with fixed bolts outweigh the ethical, environmental, and aesthetic cost to altering natural rock faces by bolting routes?

[x] yes
[ ] no

6. Approximately how much money have you spent in your lifetime on climbing gear (ex. rope, shoes, harness, biners, slings, draws, active and passive pro, etc.)?

[ ] under $100
[ ] $100-$249
[ ] $250-$499
[ ] $500-$749
[ ] $750-$999
[x] $1,000 or more

7. What is the highest level of education you have completed?

[ ] 8th grade or less
[ ] some high school
[ ] high school graduate or GED
[ ] some college, business or trade school
[x] college graduate
[ ] some graduate school
[ ] master’s, doctoral, or professional degree






8. Using the following scale, circle the number that best matches your feelings regarding the following aspects of climbing:

1 = Strongly Positive
2 = Somewhat Positive
3 = Neutral Feelings
4 = Somewhat Negative
5 = Strongly Negative

Environmental Aspects
Fixed anchors at the top of a climb (1) 2 3 4 5
Bolts on a climb 1 (2) 3 4 5
Rappel Slings (around boulders, trees, etc.) 1 2 3 4 (5)
Chalk use 1 (2) 3 4 5
Cleaning vegetation from a climbing route 1 (2) 3 4 5


In order to articulate where you fall in the realm of environmental ethics, refer to the following three spectra. In each spectrum, please select the number that best represents your prescriptive position (i.e. what ought to be).

9. Instrumental value – Intrinsic value:

Starting with the far left, you see nature as valuable only in terms of its usefulness to humans (instrumental). Moving toward the center, humans are in charge of nature but should take care it (stewardship). The third part, humans should respect all forms of life equally (i.e. plants, animals). The fourth part, intrinsic value is dominant. All things in nature have value within themselves, including inanimate objects and ecosystems, and humans are no more important than other species.



instrumental----1-----2-----3-----4----intrinsic



[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[ X] 3
[ ] 4






10. Individualistic – Holistic:

To what degree do you value the individual or the ecosystem (i.e., increasing holism) in nature? For example, some philosophers have difficulty extending value to an ecosystem, which is an inanimate object; others have no such qualms. At its most extreme, the right-hand edge of holism considers the Earth as a super-organism.


individualistic---1---2---3---4---holistic




[ ] 1
[ ] 2
[x ] 3
[ ] 4



11. Rational – Spiritual:

If you make environmental decisions solely on a rational basis (i.e., on the basis of reason, like philosophy), then place yourself on the left-hand side of the line. Alternatively, if you make environmental decisions solely on a spiritual basis, then place yourself on the right-hand side of the line. There are different definitions for spirituality. Here, you might consider spiritual as being a connection to something “greater” than yourself, but if you prefer another definition, please use it. Please do not necessarily associate “spiritual” with organized religion.


rational----1----2----3----4----spiritual




[ x] 1
[ ] 2
[ ] 3
[ ] 4


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Are boulderers not worthy to be in the survey? We get a lot flack about the crash pad and the environmet. If you want to talk about sport vs trad, well its your survey.


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