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carabiner96
May 12, 2011, 5:21 PM
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I dun get it. These crazies who think they're getting raptured next week....
"We're budgeting so that our money runs out on May 21, we're living life until then and praying" -Crazy fundy
1) you realize that when you're rong...nevermind.
2) wouldn't it be much more 'Christian' of you to donate your money to poor folk who are stuck on earth after you get raptured, rather than blowing it all??
More...http://www.npr.org/...tice-with-new-tricks
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pinktricam
May 12, 2011, 5:49 PM
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I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them.
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erisspirit
May 12, 2011, 6:18 PM
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They can donate the money to me!
I'll be drunk...
not because I believe it is Judgment day...
just because it's a weekend.
I could really use the funding from the crazies to get some good stuff.
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spikeddem
May 12, 2011, 6:39 PM
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pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them.
Yeah, aren't their beliefs crazy, PTC?
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pinktricam
May 12, 2011, 6:49 PM
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Only in that they try and pinpoint the Rapture to a specific day.
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rhaig
May 12, 2011, 8:00 PM
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erisspirit wrote: I could really use the funding from the crazies to get some good stuff.
hell yeah!
that's gun show weekend here!
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macherry
May 12, 2011, 8:33 PM
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1. my birthday is on the 23.......no rapture for me.
2. i joined the after the rapture looting party on facespace. should be some good stuff.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
May 12, 2011, 8:40 PM
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erisspirit wrote: They can donate the money to me! I'll be drunk... not because I believe it is Judgment day... just because it's a weekend. I could really use the funding from the crazies to get some good stuff.
And it is my birthday, so I'll be drunk too. I'm hoping for a little rapture as well.
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carabiner96
May 12, 2011, 8:44 PM
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Apparently it's supposed to be earthquakes. Really?? You're going to bring about the end of the world, and your going with earthquakes? Lame.
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jt512
May 12, 2011, 9:01 PM
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pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them.
Remind us: When do true Christians believe the Rapture will take place?
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skiclimb
May 12, 2011, 9:11 PM
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macherry wrote: 1. my birthday is on the 23.......no rapture for me.
No kiddin.. mine to..
rapture??
who cares.. what has that got to do with being a christian?
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pinktricam
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jt512 wrote: pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them. Remind us: When do true Christians believe the Rapture will take place?
There's no specific date. In fact, the moment someone starts spouting off a date you can bet money on the fact that they will be wrong.
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jt512
May 12, 2011, 10:25 PM
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pinktricam wrote: jt512 wrote: pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them. Remind us: When do true Christians believe the Rapture will take place? There's no specific date. In fact, the moment someone starts spouting off a date you can bet money on the fact that they will be wrong.
No shit.
Jay
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ubu
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"Preparing for rapture"? I usually just call that foreplay.
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iknowfear
May 13, 2011, 3:40 AM
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pinktricam wrote: jt512 wrote: pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them. Remind us: When do true Christians believe the Rapture will take place? There's no specific date. In fact, the moment someone starts spouting off a date you can bet money on the fact that they will be wrong.
cool. I say the rapture will take place as a surpise on any day between now and 31.12.9999 - Hey I just saved humanity for a few thousand years - yay me!
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rrrADAM
May 13, 2011, 6:04 AM
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pinktricam wrote: jt512 wrote: pinktricam wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath if I were them. Remind us: When do true Christians believe the Rapture will take place? There's no specific date. In fact, the moment someone starts spouting off a date you can bet money on the fact that they will be wrong.
You mean like Jesus?
Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL.
You know, Eric... I actually agree with you on this one. Jesus/God was wrong.
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pinktricam
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You may want to tattoo "fail" across your forehead, because that's what you just did.
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climber49er
May 13, 2011, 8:16 AM
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rrrADAM wrote: You mean like Jesus? Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL.
Ever considered that your understanding of what he was talking about could be off? Food for thought.
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jt512
May 13, 2011, 10:25 AM
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climber49er wrote: rrrADAM wrote: You mean like Jesus? Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL. Ever considered that your understanding of what he was talking about could be off? Food for thought.
Undoubtedly, that was one of the metaphorical passages, as opposed to the literal ones, like the one about the resurrection.
Jay
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chadnsc
May 13, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Meh, I'll be climbing in RRG. If the rapture comes while I'm on Long Wall so be it.
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david_smithrock
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In reply to: You mean like Jesus? Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL.
So I assume you believe that 1)Jesus said this, and 2)It was written down in the gospels to be read by people of the generation in question.
When did you say these gospels were written again?
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rrrADAM
May 14, 2011, 3:16 AM
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david_smithrock wrote: In reply to: You mean like Jesus? Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL. So I assume you believe that 1)Jesus said this, and 2)It was written down in the gospels to be read by people of the generation in question. When did you say these gospels were written again?
Actually, no, I don't, as I'm certain that Jesus didn't think he was God, nor that he would/could return in the future... He knew that he was a man, just like you and I. But it's not what I think that counts, as it's not my belief system anymore.
Now, ask those same questions to the vast myriad of Christians, and most if not all confidently believe those are the words of Jesus, and that the Gospels were written by people who witnessed him utter those words. Of course to Christians, in hind sight, it can't be meant for that generation, even though that is what the words mean, because it didn't happen, and Jesus can't possibly be wrong, so it HAS to be reinterpreted... Perhaps even to the point of changing what he was talking about all together (see reply from climber49er above).
As to when... Most Biblical scholars believe Mark was written about 30-40 years after the death of Jesus, and that it was used as source marerial for Matthew and Luke. Matthew, written ~10-20 years later, is according to most scholars, another falsely attributed (to Matthew) work in the NT, like 2 Peter. Luke, about the same time, perhaps later.
So, given the lifespans of people then, it is unlikely that it was even written towards the extreme end of that 'generation*' but well into the next, or even 3rd.
*According to Matthew, a 'generation' could be 64 years, or 38 years:
http://www.thercg.org/questions/p199.a.html#c
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rrrADAM
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jt512 wrote: climber49er wrote: rrrADAM wrote: You mean like Jesus? Jesus, according to Mark and Luke wrote: Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 2,000 years have passed, 'many generations' later = prophecy FAIL. Ever considered that your understanding of what he was talking about could be off? Food for thought. Undoubtedly, that was one of the metaphorical passages, as opposed to the literal ones, like the one about the resurrection. Jay
They have something we don't, Jay...
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