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ceebo
May 13, 2011, 5:16 AM
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A few of my friends are very similar height to me from foot to head, if not their slightly smaller. However, at arms length they all seem to out reach me by a inch (I worded this best i could to avoid the obvious, but feel free to insert cock jokes).
I assumed being taller than they (even though i am quite small anyway) would = a longer reach?. Do i have shorter arms, do they have longer arms?. Is it in the legs, maybe torso or what?. Could it also be body posture?.
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shockabuku
May 13, 2011, 5:54 AM
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ceebo wrote: A few of my friends are very similar height to me from foot to head, if not their slightly smaller. However, at arms length they all seem to out reach me by a inch (I worded this best i could to avoid the obvious, but feel free to insert cock jokes). I assumed being taller than they (even though i am quite small anyway) would = a longer reach?. Do i have shorter arms, do they have longer arms?. Is it in the legs, maybe torso or what?. Could it also be body posture?.
Happy to oblige.
Maybe you should have a short arm inspection to find out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/...Short-arm_inspection
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May 13, 2011, 6:53 AM
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I am not sure why this is news to you, but yes, there is a variation in people's arms length vs. their height.
Have you heard of the term "ape index"?
It is pretty common for people's arm span to be the same as their height (Ape index=0). If the armspan is longer than height, the person is said to have a positive ape index. And some people have shorter arms (negative ape index)
Many climbers have positive ape index-- by 1- or two inches, but sometimes the difference is as much as 4 extra inches of armspan, compared to height. Positive ape index is generally seen as an advantage to climbers.
I have a friend whose ape index is about -3. She is taller than me by couple inches, but I have a slightly positive ape index, so our armspan is about equal. There are many situations where it does make a visible difference to how we climb. Even though our armspan is about the same, we often have to come up with completely different beta for the same climb.
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ceebo
May 13, 2011, 7:19 AM
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lena_chita wrote: I am not sure why this is news to you, but yes, there is a variation in people's arms length vs. their height. Have you heard of the term "ape index"? It is pretty common for people's arm span to be the same as their height (Ape index=0). If the armspan is longer than height, the person is said to have a positive ape index. And some people have shorter arms (negative ape index) Many climbers have positive ape index-- by 1- or two inches, but sometimes the difference is as much as 4 extra inches of armspan, compared to height. Positive ape index is generally seen as an advantage to climbers. I have a friend whose ape index is about -3. She is taller than me by couple inches, but I have a slightly positive ape index, so our armspan is about equal. There are many situations where it does make a visible difference to how we climb. Even though our armspan is about the same, we often have to come up with completely different beta for the same climb.
I see, thnx for the post.
I just checked the measurements and it seems i am actually 1 inch positive. So i guess their even more lucky than me.
(This post was edited by ceebo on May 13, 2011, 7:23 AM)
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May 13, 2011, 12:17 PM
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ceebo wrote: lena_chita wrote: I am not sure why this is news to you, but yes, there is a variation in people's arms length vs. their height. Have you heard of the term "ape index"? It is pretty common for people's arm span to be the same as their height (Ape index=0). If the armspan is longer than height, the person is said to have a positive ape index. And some people have shorter arms (negative ape index) Many climbers have positive ape index-- by 1- or two inches, but sometimes the difference is as much as 4 extra inches of armspan, compared to height. Positive ape index is generally seen as an advantage to climbers. I have a friend whose ape index is about -3. She is taller than me by couple inches, but I have a slightly positive ape index, so our armspan is about equal. There are many situations where it does make a visible difference to how we climb. Even though our armspan is about the same, we often have to come up with completely different beta for the same climb. I see, thnx for the post. I just checked the measurements and it seems i am actually 1 inch positive. So i guess their even more lucky than me.
There are times when having longer arms is better for reach and there are times when having longer legs is better for reach. I wouldn't worry about it to much. Same goes for height. Also, my arms aren't that long for my height however because I have broad shoulders, I have a plus 2.5 inch ape index. So when reaching straight up, there's not much advantage in reach but when reaching sideways there is.
If anything if you look at most of the top climbers today there's a trend towards simply being smaller/lighter is better whereas 20 plus years ago when we we're much further from the limits, people generally thought being taller was better.
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cacalderon
May 13, 2011, 7:34 PM
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google "ape index"
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sungam
May 14, 2011, 8:51 AM
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ceebo wrote: lena_chita wrote: I am not sure why this is news to you, but yes, there is a variation in people's arms length vs. their height. Have you heard of the term "ape index"? It is pretty common for people's arm span to be the same as their height (Ape index=0). If the armspan is longer than height, the person is said to have a positive ape index. And some people have shorter arms (negative ape index) Many climbers have positive ape index-- by 1- or two inches, but sometimes the difference is as much as 4 extra inches of armspan, compared to height. Positive ape index is generally seen as an advantage to climbers. I have a friend whose ape index is about -3. She is taller than me by couple inches, but I have a slightly positive ape index, so our armspan is about equal. There are many situations where it does make a visible difference to how we climb. Even though our armspan is about the same, we often have to come up with completely different beta for the same climb. I see, thnx for the post. I just checked the measurements and it seems i am actually 1 inch positive. So i guess their even more lucky than me.
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