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macblaze
Aug 15, 2011, 6:36 PM
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In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday.
Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain....
http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html
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rock_fencer
Aug 15, 2011, 6:40 PM
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for some reason i recall that there is a standing line rescue heli in the Himalayas up to 7K
either way, so very strange to get to the top and not have a plan to get down
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bearbreeder
Aug 15, 2011, 6:42 PM
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parks canada rescue deserve their beers ...
on another note ... there was a heli rescue from yak peak as well ...
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onrockandice
Aug 16, 2011, 7:28 PM
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So am I right that these guys decided to climb a peak (and I doubt they are the FA) and didn't know how to get off it? That seems really... well... {insert your own expression and I'll agree}.
How do you alpine climb and not know how to exit?
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dan2see
Aug 16, 2011, 7:53 PM
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onrockandice wrote: So am I right that these guys decided to climb a peak (and I doubt they are the FA) and didn't know how to get off it? That seems really... well... {insert your own expression and I'll agree}. How do you alpine climb and not know how to exit?
The story (here is the same link again) Climbers saved in 3,600-metre heli-rescue
does not tell about how the climbers got there, nor about how they could get down.
The story tells about how they used a SPOT beacon to call for rescue, and how the Parks Canada team got there.
I believe the news item on CBC-TV said they were exhausted, and their video shows the summit terrain as being impossible to navigate. It also showed a lot of fresh snow in the rocks, and visual angle looked chaotic.
I guess that if they had not called for help, they would have died somewhere on the summit rocks, maybe next day.
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onrockandice
Aug 16, 2011, 7:55 PM
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Good points. There is always more to the situation isn't there. I think it's easy to be an 5.15 couch climber when you weren't there. Good points.
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JohnCook
Aug 16, 2011, 8:57 PM
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Dumb? Stupid? Idiotic? Moronic? Mindless? Inane? Selfish? Inprepared? Inept? Hopefull? Clueless? etc?
Typical of many of the modern climbers I have been in contact with, if life screws up someone else will help me out, so I don't need to be self-sufficient! (Maybe not just in climbing, but the whole of life.)
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overlord
Aug 16, 2011, 11:21 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: parks canada rescue deserve their beers ... on another note ... there was a heli rescue from yak peak as well ...
this and not checking the weather report seems to be the norm where i come from (slovenia)... during the summer we average at least three heli rescues per week-end and i dont even want to know how many ordinary ones. some ppl just never learn...
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majid_sabet
Aug 25, 2011, 9:45 AM
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macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html
3600 meter is not a high alt rescue
if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue
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hugepedro
Aug 25, 2011, 10:02 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html3600 meter is not a high alt rescue if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue
Technically, you're wrong, in terms of the medical definitions of altitude.
In reply to: Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters).
http://www.medterms.com/....asp?articlekey=8578
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majid_sabet
Aug 25, 2011, 10:23 AM
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hugepedro wrote: majid_sabet wrote: macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html3600 meter is not a high alt rescue if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue Technically, you're wrong, in terms of the medical definitions of altitude. In reply to: Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters).
since when medical doctors in hospital became experts in high alt rescue ?
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hugepedro
Aug 25, 2011, 11:38 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: hugepedro wrote: majid_sabet wrote: macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html3600 meter is not a high alt rescue if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue Technically, you're wrong, in terms of the medical definitions of altitude. In reply to: Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). since when medical doctors in hospital became experts in high alt rescue ?
Who cares? I just like it because it makes me an EXTREME climber!
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dan2see
Aug 25, 2011, 12:46 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html3600 meter is not a high alt rescue if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue
Why oh why do our experts have to be such drips?
The story was not about a high-altitude climb. It's about a high-altitude rescue.
Jeez, does every f-ing expert have to be so f-ing right?
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majid_sabet
Aug 25, 2011, 1:10 PM
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hugepedro wrote: majid_sabet wrote: hugepedro wrote: majid_sabet wrote: macblaze wrote: In reply to: Parks Canada rescuers used a helicopter to pluck two stranded climbers from a 3,600-metre-high mountain peak in Yoho National Park on Sunday. Taking a helicopter that high almost scares me more than the mountain.... http://www.cbc.ca/...mountain-rescue.html3600 meter is not a high alt rescue if you had 6000 meter or more then yes, you can call it high alt rescue Technically, you're wrong, in terms of the medical definitions of altitude. In reply to: Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). since when medical doctors in hospital became experts in high alt rescue ? Who cares? I just like it because it makes me an EXTREME climber!
once you start thinking you are an extreme climber, you began crossing point of no return and I&A is full of such resumes
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